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Elimination: Tier 8 Premiums - Patriot's Providence (COMPLETE)

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Type 59: 12
WZ-111: 16 
112: 22
T-34-3: 14

FCM 50 t: 14 -3 (Was 17) My most played and least enjoyed tank. I managed to pull something like a 60% win rate over a hundred or so games in it for a while, but it was an absolute chore to use. The stress it brings trying not to fail horribly in it just isn't worth it.
M4A1 Rev.: 29
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 23 
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 24

Panther 88: 8
Löwe:  31 
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 22 
STA-2: 26 +1 (Was 25) It's actually a pretty darn good tank now. Nice for supporting, it can do most anything but soak hits.
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 27

IS6  (Black): 5
KV-5: 22
T-44-100: 16
T
34: 11
T26E4: 18

IS-3A: 20

IS-5: 20

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I was retarded with formatting
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10 hours ago, Urshakus said:


when the tank exchange will be available, I'am trading it for Mutz.
 

w-what?

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12 hours ago, Rexxie said:

Lmao, Griphos sniped the IS-5 and IS-3A off the list on page 2 without anyone noticing. RIP.

IS-6 dropping off before Panther 88, k wotlabs <3

And FCM being voted out over other prem tanks like what. I dont even. I mean, the rev ffs. What?

Sure it got buffed, but i own it, Ive played it. Its gone from mediocre to average. Its nowhere near "good" the Lowe is still a farm like it was before the buff,  and the STA-2? wat? Did it get like a super ultra mega buff or something?

Iike, literally, out of that entire list thats left the only tank that is actually good at grinding credits without pulling your hair out in constant tier 10. 

Im sorry, I just dont get it. 

 

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Ignore the colors.

Type 59: 12
WZ-111: 16 
112: 22
T-34-3: 14

FCM 50 t: 11
M4A1 Rev.: 29
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 23 
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 24

Panther 88: 8
Löwe:  31 
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 22 
STA-2: 27
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 27 + 1 = 28

This is a real American heavy tank! Good mobility, good firepower,good VR, and good armour, just like it's other E5 brother! This tank is a 10!

IS6  (Black): 5
KV-5: 22
T-44-100: 16
T
34: 11 - 3 = 8

This isn't a very good American heavy tank. All boom, nothing else. Sad!
T26E4: 18

IS-3A: 20

IS-5: 20

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Type 59: 12
WZ-111: 16 
112: 22
T-34-3: 14

FCM 50 t: 11
M4A1 Rev.: 29
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 23 
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 24

Panther 88: 8
Löwe:  31 
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 22 
STA-2: 27
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 28

IS6  (Black): 5 + 1 = 6, See below
KV-5: 22
T-44-100: 16
T
34: 8 - 3 = 5, too slow to do anything, gives away way too much for a big gun. Only premium i regret buying.

T26E4: 18

IS-3A: 20

IS-5: 20

 

Really surprised how people dislike the IS-6. To me it feels extremely good still, you have pref-mm, very good armor to go with that, quite good speed and even decent DPM. Only pen is a bit lacking, but in my opinion pref-mm makes it completely fine, so much soft targets to shoot. Playing IS-6 really feels like turning WOT into "easy". 

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cavman dun goofed. he didn't copy kitten's list before him where type gets +1 and FCM -3

@ZXrage Rin_'s list has FCM at 14 (was 17 before him) and STA2 to 26 (25 on the previous list), but he annotated that oddly

 

so this list should be right

including my own

Type 59: 13+1=14 good enough armor to bully sub 170 pen quite well, stronk hulldown, comfy russian wedge profile and pref MM. seriously what is wrong with you people
WZ-111: 16
112: 22
T-34-3: 14
FCM 50 t: 11
M4A1 Rev.: 29
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 23
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 24
Panther 88: 8-3=5 seems like the worst one of the non-pref meds KR/Mutz/STA2/T-44-100
Löwe:  31
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 22
STA-2: 26
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 28
IS6  (Black): 6
KV-5: 22
T-44-100: 16
T34: 5
T26E4: 18
IS-3A: 20
IS-5: 20

 

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47 minutes ago, Fulvin said:

 

Type 59: 14
WZ-111: 16
112: 22
T-34-3: 14
FCM 50 t: 11
M4A1 Rev.: 29
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 23
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 24
Panther 88: 5 - 3 = 2 i always feast on it and still seems poopy
Löwe:  31
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 22
STA-2: 26
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 28
IS6  (Black): 6
KV-5: 22 + 1 = 23 stronk af and yolo capabilities are great, kv-5 is love :wub: 
T-44-100: 16 
T34: 5
T26E4: 18
IS-3A: 20
IS-5: 20

 

fuck mobile formatting

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Type 59: 14
WZ-111: 16
112: 22
T-34-3: 14
FCM 50 t: 11
M4A1 Rev.: 29
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 23
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 24 + 1 = 25; everything you need in one ugly ass package
Panther 88: 5
Löwe:  31
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 22
STA-2: 26
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 28
IS6  (Black): 6
KV-5: 22
T-44-100: 16
T34: 5 - 3 = 2; Theres nothing more to say, the only thing this tank has going for it is its pen.
T26E4: 18
IS-3A: 20
IS-5: 20

 

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7 hours ago, FabiogtwZ said:

w-what?

Yeah, they were testing it on RU server you could trade your premium tank for 50% of its price and buy another with that, still you need the another half of gold and the tank have to be only in tech tree, but I think it's still a good deal, when you don't want some premium tank and with another patch, they are gonna put the Mutz in the tech tree. 

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56 minutes ago, Urshakus said:

Yeah, they were testing it on RU server you could trade your premium tank for 50% of its price and buy another with that, still you need the another half of gold and the tank have to be only in tech tree, but I think it's still a good deal, when you don't want some premium tank and with another patch, they are gonna put the Mutz in the tech tree. 

Thats not fair, i sold all my premium tanks except for the T34 and FV4202

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Type 59: 14
WZ-111: 16
112: 22
T-34-3: 14
FCM 50 t: 11
M4A1 Rev.: 29
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 23
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 26 It's a bit big but hella fast and 490 alpha :bigdoge:
Panther 88: 5
Löwe:  31
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 22
STA-2: 26
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 28
IS6  (Black): 6
KV-5: 22
T-44-100: 16
T34:  0 BYE
T26E4: 18
IS-3A: 20
IS-5: 20

 

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Type 59: 14
WZ-111: 16
112: 22
T-34-3: 14
FCM 50 t: 11
M4A1 Rev.: 29
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 23
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 26 
Panther 88: 5
Löwe:  31
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 22
STA-2: 26
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 28
IS6  (Black): 6
KV-5: 22 + 1 = 23, what's more fun than yoloing across Malinovka field into 6 pubbies, taking 0 damage and winning? It's also surprisingly fast enough in a straight line not to get artied that much
T-44-100: 16 - 3 = 13, armor isn't worth jack shit unlike the mod. 1 and the extra mobility doesn't count for too much considering that you will still be caught by the faster high tier heavies and all the meds. Sure you can run away and chai snipe faster but who cares with 235 pen meaning you can't pen some stuff reliably from the front at 400m? Played both and preferred the mod. 1 by far, at least it can bully so much harder when top tier.
T26E4: 18
IS-3A: 20
IS-5: 20

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I apologize for shitty format but my post got ignored, could someone drop P88 and rise KV-5?

Also tbh i think IS-5 shouldn't have been ranked at all. It is CW reward and most of us thus cant tell how it is. Heck, no one noticed when it got ninjaremoved...for 6 pages. Its still at 20 points lol. More common than other CW reward or not, imo it was mistake to bring it to list.

IS-3A is on same boat, but its regular premium which you can buy when its avaivable, so its fine to be listed. I think it is mostly cared for less because almost no one bought it.

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Unless I missed a post, the list should be this (Legga changes taken into account) as noted above.  It might be worth dropping the IS-5 due to the aforementioned reasoning, but it's not my call.  

Type 59: 14
WZ-111: 16
112: 22
T-34-3: 14
FCM 50 t: 11
M4A1 Rev.: 29
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 23
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 26 + 1 = 27:  My go to I don't care about what tier I face money making premium tier 8 tank.  Reliable pen and accurate gun (providing you aim in) capable of dealing with nearly any threat you face at standoff range (other than fcking E5 cupolas, but all hail 9.17.1 Make Germany Great Again for seeing to that issue).  Effortless credit farm, and hilarious in packs in t8 strongholds.  
Panther 88: 2 
Löwe:  31
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 22
STA-2: 26
M46 KR: 21 
T26E5 (Patriot): 28
IS6  (Black): 6 - 3 = 3:  With its new brother coming out the only reason I have not to buy the 252U is the fact I already have 4 tier 8 premium Russian Heavy tanks, but if I could trade this pile in for a discount on that tank I would in a heartbeat.  The gun is simply too much of a slot machine to enjoy, and if you run into anything like an IS-3, Bento Box, or E75 just bend over and grab your ankles, as Jingles would say.  
KV-5: 23
T-44-100: 13
T26E4: 18
IS-3A: 20
IS-5: 20

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Type 59: 14
WZ-111: 16
112: 22
T-34-3: 14
FCM 50 t: 11
M4A1 Rev.: 29 + 1 = 30 because it's really good now and I still haven't bought one for some reason...
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 23
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 27
Panther 88: 2 
Löwe:  31
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 22
STA-2: 26
M46 KR: 21 
T26E5 (Patriot): 28
IS6  (Black): 3
KV-5: 23 - 3 = 20 just garbage, the gun is so fucking bad vs anything at T8/T9 that has even resemblance of armor it's just unplayable.
T-44-100: 13
T26E4: 18
IS-3A: 20
IS-5: 20

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Type 59: 14
WZ-111: 16
112: 22
T-34-3: 14
FCM 50 t: 11
M4A1 Rev.: 30
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 23
leKpz M41 90mm:  18
(-3 because it is, like the CDC, only a stronghold tank and absolute garbage for randoms. The shell velocity combined with by far the worst LT platform on the tier make it very underwhelming for something with tier 9 MM)
Skorpion G: 27
Panther 88: 2 
Löwe:  31
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 22
STA-2: 26
M46 KR: 22
(+1 really solid tank after the buff, not like it needed it but man does it feel better already)
T26E5 (Patriot): 28
IS6  (Black): 3
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 13
T26E4: 18
IS-3A: 20
IS-5: 20

 

By the way, I don't really see the point of some peoples arguments, downvoting the Type 59 and WZ-111? I'm sorry but the tanks are good, and you might be the problem rather than the tanks :doge: Seriously, have you tried the WZ-111 after the buff? If you own this there's absolutely no reason to pick an IS-6 over it. And the IS-6 is by far a better tank than the IS-5 in randoms. See the point here? 

  
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We can remove the IS-3A and IS-5 if there's no complaints. I just thought it was odd to remove them while we have tanks far less people have played still on the list.

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Type 59: 14
WZ-111: 16
112: 22
T-34-3: 14

FCM 50 t: 12 (11+1: While it's not as great as I used to think it was, it's my only prem tier 8 and I have no qualms taking it into battle. I enjoy the challenge that comes with playing it as it forces me to play smart or get rekt. A harsh mistress, sure, but rewarding to play and extremely profitable since the AP pen is so good.)
M4A1 Rev.: 30
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 23
leKpz M41 90mm:  18
 
Skorpion G: 27
Panther 88: -1 (2-3: Basically an inferior FCM, I did well in it with the few battles I had in the rental, but not well enough to buy this over something like the Rev or the Mutz. Goodnight, sweet prince.)
Löwe:  31
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 22
STA-2: 26
M46 KR: 22
 
T26E5 (Patriot): 28
IS6  (Black): 3
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 13
T26E4: 18
IS-3A: 20
IS-5: 20

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So panther8.8 is gone. IS-5 and is-3a is gone as well due the quantity I guess?

 

Type 59: 14-3=11  cancerous gun that only brought up frustration. Hull armor is not that reliable anymore, it's not the old days. Turret is still great but again the gun IS SO BAD.
WZ-111: 16
112: 22
T-34-3: 14
FCM 50 t: 12 
M4A1 Rev.: 30
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 23
leKpz M41 90mm:  18  
Skorpion G: 27
Löwe:  31
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 22+1=23 same reason as I mentioned be4
STA-2: 26
M46 KR: 22  
T26E5 (Patriot): 28
IS6  (Black): 3
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 13
T26E4: 18

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4 hours ago, Rexxie said:

We can remove the IS-3A and IS-5 if there's no complaints. I just thought it was odd to remove them while we have tanks far less people have played still on the list.

Well, considering they are both extremely unlikely to win, leaving them in there would just be for science, to see when they'd get eliminated rather than if.

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Type 59: 11  .
WZ-111: 16
112: 22
T-34-3: 14

FCM 50 t: 12 - 3 = 9 I have played a ton of games in this tank (3rd most maybe?) and I have made a ton of credits in it, but its a hard tank to win in.  If I HAD to win a game and choose between this an an IS-6, the IS-6 has way more carry potential.  If you get yolo'd in this tank you are fucked.
M4A1 Rev.: 30
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 23
leKpz M41 90mm:  18  
Skorpion G: 27
Löwe:  31
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 23 
STA-2: 26
M46 KR: 22  
T26E5 (Patriot): 28
I
S6  (Black): 3 + 1 = 4 I was in my patriot and ran into a unicum in an IS-6 last night and he reminded me why this tank is not worse than the FCM, great armor + 390 alpha + decent mobility.  You should not be fighting E75s and STIs in it anyway nerds.
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 13
T26E4: 18

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Type 59: 11  .
WZ-111: 16
112: 22
T-34-3: 14
FCM 50 t: 6 - See previous rant. This tank is bad. Anyone voting it out before the IS6 is bad and is a MT padder. Fuck this thing
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 24 Still the best of the top 3, but Im fine w/ any of those three winning
leKpz M41 90mm:  18  
Skorpion G: 27
Löwe:  31
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 23 
STA-2: 26
M46 KR: 22  
T26E5 (Patriot): 28
IS6  (Black): 4
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 13
T26E4: 18

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