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AMX Canon d’assaut de 105 - Tier 8 Premium French TD (Why?)

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Sauce:https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2017/05/23/amx-canon-dassaut-de-105-upcoming-tier-viii-french-td-pictures/

I can't pronounce the name because it's French, but here are the stats (subject to change, ofc)
 

 


Tier: TD-8
HP: 1000
Max speed/Min speed: 55 / -18 km / h
Hull turning speed: 28 °/s
Horizontal gun turning speed: 26 °/s
View range: 360 m

Hull armor: 100 / 40 / 30 mm

Alpha Damage: 320 / 320 / 515
Penetration: 260 / 320 / 53 mm
Reload time: 12,5 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,3
Aiming time: 2,0 s

Pics:
https://imgur.com/a/UFdwp

Looks nice, but its a premium for arguably the most unpopular line in the game. It's gun also isn't very nice with these stats.

 

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I really hope this underperforms super hard and forces a buff on all french td's. Looking at current supertest trends tanks that are shit in supertest end up strong in game, tanks that are broken in supertest get nerfed hard so there is hope

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27 minutes ago, hazzgar said:

I really hope this underperforms super hard and forces a buff on all french td's. Looking at current supertest trends tanks that are shit in supertest end up strong in game, tanks that are broken in supertest get nerfed hard so there is hope

By the current state of Defenders, Patriots and Chryslers, nope.

not happening.

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52 minutes ago, WhatTheSkara said:

By the current state of Defenders, Patriots and Chryslers, nope.

not happening.

Ok this is another thing to consider. This will either be a continuation of the op prem trend or WG is scared shitless of another PR problem so they will release a shit prem so people don't get angry.

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1 hour ago, hazzgar said:

Ok this is another thing to consider. This will either be a continuation of the op prem trend or WG is scared shitless of another PR problem so they will release a shit prem so people don't get angry.

Thing is, the AMX CDA 105 isn't really shit. Sure, the current stats are somewhat lacking and the vehicle needs a few buffs here and there (ground resistance and RoF, holy shit those ground resistances), but beyond that, everything hints at a solid vehicle that just is not OP as the retarded shit released recently.

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6 hours ago, Madner Kami said:

Thing is, the AMX CDA 105 isn't really shit. Sure, the current stats are somewhat lacking and the vehicle needs a few buffs here and there (ground resistance and RoF, holy shit those ground resistances), but beyond that, everything hints at a solid vehicle that just is not OP as the retarded shit released recently.

Where did you find ground resistances and are there bloom values? Because it's still a casemate TD with lowest in trier alpha, and armor that only works against lower triers. If it has overmatchable sides it would need really amazing handling to work

 

Also I am a bit drunk. 320 alpha with 12.5s reload? Doesn't that translate to sub 1600 dpm? 

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13 minutes ago, hazzgar said:

Where did you find ground resistances and are there bloom values? Because it's still a casemate TD with lowest in trier alpha, and armor that only works against lower triers. If it has overmatchable sides it would need really amazing handling to work

 

Also I am a bit drunk. 320 alpha with 12.5s reload? Doesn't that translate to sub 1600 dpm? 

These are the updated stats:

Tier: TD-8

HP1000

Engine power: 720 hp
Mass: 26,88 t
Maximum load: 32 t
Power-to-weight: 26,79 hp / t
Max speed/Min speed: 55 / -18 km / h
Hull turning speed: 28 °/s
Gun turning speed: 26 °/s
Terrain resistance values: 1,247 / 1,342 / 2,301
View range: 360 m
Radio range: 750 m

Hull armor: 100 / 40 / 30 mm

Gun: 105 mm CN 105

Alpha Damage: 390 / 390 / 480
Penetration: 260 / 320 / 53 mm
Rounds per minute: 5,006
Damage per minute: 1952,2
Reload time: 11,986 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,288
Aiming time: 1,92 s
Depression/Elevation: -8 / +20 degrees

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50 minutes ago, ZXrage said:

These are the updated stats:

 

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Tier: TD-8

HP1000

Engine power: 720 hp
Mass: 26,88 t
Maximum load: 32 t
Power-to-weight: 26,79 hp / t
Max speed/Min speed: 55 / -18 km / h
Hull turning speed: 28 °/s
Gun turning speed: 26 °/s
Terrain resistance values: 1,247 / 1,342 / 2,301
View range: 360 m
Radio range: 750 m

Hull armor: 100 / 40 / 30 mm

Gun: 105 mm CN 105

Alpha Damage: 390 / 390 / 480
Penetration: 260 / 320 / 53 mm
Rounds per minute: 5,006
Damage per minute: 1952,2
Reload time: 11,986 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,288
Aiming time: 1,92 s
Depression/Elevation: -8 / +20 degrees

 

 

What's the bloom? 

 

Still with meh armor, supposedly meh ground resistances the DPM is waay to low. FFS. Jagdpanther gets 2.3k and that's at t7. Similar mobility, ok less alpha (but it's a trier lower) and t4t similar armor.

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13 minutes ago, Tupinambis said:

It is terrible compared to the tier 8 premium Chinese td though, which I'm willing to bet will be publicly available sooner rather than later

IIRC that is CN server exclusive, too

2.1k base DPM is still very low for tier 8 TD, especially considering the 390 alpha, but it still balanced. It compensates that for great acc and aim time, good mobility and somewhat okay (but not great unless using -8 depression) armor.

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5 minutes ago, leggasiini said:

IIRC that is CN server exclusive, too

2.1k base DPM is still very low for tier 8 TD, especially considering the 390 alpha, but it still balanced. It compensates that for great acc and aim time, good mobility and somewhat okay (but not great unless using -8 depression) armor.

I'm just not buying the "cn server exclusive" thing. The biggest bottleneck to introducing a tank into the game, by far, are the thousands of manhours needed to make an HD model for the vehicle. Now that the models for 11 Chinese td's have been made.... why not? What's actually stopping them? The fulll line will probably come out in the other servers eventually, then WG has a perfect reason to sell the tier 8 and set the tier 9 on the next season of personal missions.

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On 6/23/2017 at 7:12 AM, Tupinambis said:

I'm just not buying the "cn server exclusive" thing. The biggest bottleneck to introducing a tank into the game, by far, are the thousands of manhours needed to make an HD model for the vehicle. Now that the models for 11 Chinese td's have been made.... why not? What's actually stopping them? The fulll line will probably come out in the other servers eventually, then WG has a perfect reason to sell the tier 8 and set the tier 9 on the next season of personal missions.

It's possible that the development is done or paid for by the cn partner requires licensing to use on other servers.

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On 6/23/2017 at 6:12 AM, Tupinambis said:

I'm just not buying the "cn server exclusive" thing. The biggest bottleneck to introducing a tank into the game, by far, are the thousands of manhours needed to make an HD model for the vehicle. Now that the models for 11 Chinese td's have been made.... why not? What's actually stopping them? The fulll line will probably come out in the other servers eventually, then WG has a perfect reason to sell the tier 8 and set the tier 9 on the next season of personal missions.

WZ-111 used to be CN only. We got it ~2 years after CN got it. It'll happen eventually, maybe just not immediately.

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