French Heavy ST Stats

[Canadian_Reaper 90]

https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2017/09/29/supertest-french-heavies-stats/

Daily Bounce/Ritas don't mention these, so not sure if it's real or not, but... Prem Pen on the big guns seems ridiculously low

Tier: HT-8, France
HP: 1 550
Engine power: 1 000 hp
Power-to-weight: 16 hp / t
Max / Min speed: 40 / -15 km / h
Hull turning speed: 25 °/s
Turret turning speed: 26 °/s
View range: 370 m

Hull armor: 100 / 80 / 68 mm
Turret armor: 250 / 80 / 60 mm

Gun: 100 mm

Alpha Damage: 300 / 300 / 400
Penetration: 232 / 263 / 50 mm
Reload time: 9,3 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,34
Aiming time: 3,0 s
Depression/Elevation: -8 / +13

Gun: 120 mm

Alpha Damage: 400 / 400 / 515
Penetration: 218 / 325 / 65 mm
Reload time: 13,8 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,36
Aiming time: 2,7 s
Depression/Elevation: -8 / +13

Tier: HT-9, France
HP: 1 900
Engine power: 1 000 hp
Power-to-weight: 16 hp / t
Max / Min speed: 40 / -15 km / h
Hull turning speed: 28 °/s
Turret turning speed: 28 °/s
View range: 380 m

Hull armor: 180 / 60 / 40 mm
Turret armor: 300 / 80 / 40 mm

Gun: 120 mm

Alpha Damage: 400 / 400 / 515
Penetration: 257 / 325 / 65 mm
Reload time: 10,5 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,32
Aiming time: 2,0 s
Depression/Elevation: -8 / +13

Gun: 127 mm

Alpha Damage: 470 / 470 / 610
Penetration: 242 / 258 / 64 mm
Reload time: 12,5 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,34
Aiming time: 2,3 s
Depression/Elevation: -8 / +13

Tier: HT-10, France
HP: 2 200
Engine power: 1 200 hp
Power-to-weight: 16,9 hp / t
Max / Min speed: 40 / -15 km / h
Hull turning speed: 32 °/s
Turret turning speed: 32 °/s
View range: 390 m

Hull armor: 220 / 60 / 40 mm
Turret armor: 300 / 80 / 40 mm

Gun: 120 mm

Alpha Damage: 400 / 400 / 515
Penetration: 264 / 325 / 65 mm
Reload time: 10,3 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,3
Aiming time: 1,8 s
Depression/Elevation: -8 / +15

Gun: 130 mm

Alpha Damage: 560 / 560 / 640
Penetration: 250 / 280 / 65 mm
Reload time: 14,8 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,33
Aiming time: 2,2 s
Depression/Elevation: -8 / +15

[Tarski 341]

Yeah, those pen values seem off. Probably the tanks will be released with those pen values, players will complain to WG that the new heavy line has inadequate penetration, and eventually WG will introduce new naval guns for the heavy tanks which fire only high caliber HE and premium HE rounds. 

[Fabunil 1,597]

The frontal hull is quite a lot weaker than what I expected, the tier 9 gets worse hull armor than the liberte (~230 EFA across the front against AP, so on flat ground tier 9/10 standard rounds will pen the upper hull) and the tier 10 gets ~280 EFA on the upper hull so goldrounds will be able to penetrate plus you probably can't angle those tanks since they probably get the typical weak shoulderplates of the AMX M4-hull.

Gameplaywise very similar to the (new) british HTs that trade the ability to sidescrape, some upper hull armor and some gundepression for a potentially bigger gun and better mobility.

[FavreFan4ever 281]

Hey, we're getting (some) of the second French HT line! Huzzah!

[GehakteMolen 2,063]

These *things* seem very nice, statwise ok + they look like real tanks

Time to grind some exp on the tier 7 i guess (and get an crew)

[Tarski 341]

56 minutes ago, GehakteMolen said:

Time to grind some exp on the tier 7 i guess (and get an crew)

I've been putting this off for a long time. But since I played the tier 7 before it was buffed, I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised. 

[GehakteMolen 2,063]

8 minutes ago, Tarski said:

I've been putting this off for a long time. But since I played the tier 7 before it was buffed, I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised. 

It used to be really, really strong with full gold, since 225 pen, 330 alpha and OP dpm are a powerfull combo (no idea if it still has the OP dpm with the 100mm, but it used to have KV5 dpm and penetration, on tier 7...)

[leggasiini 1,567]

THE TIER 10 NAVAL GUN THO

 

THE T H I C C

 

UMMMM YEAAA ITS SOOO THICCC

 

Liberte, Type 5 and M103 banged each other and this is the result

 

I know what i am gonna grind next heee heee

 

Also the stats are real, I was one who noticed them first among the TAP team, just didnt post cus I dont speak cyka blyat :^)

[kolni 69,670,872]

325 pen on a t8 heavy  

[1n_Soviet_Russia 1,299]

[Fabunil 1,597]

17 minutes ago, Kolni said:

325 pen on a t8 heavy  

Hey, the Object 416 gets 340 pen.

Then again, it is Russian...

[hall0 1,095]

Well they accepted their new mm fucks T8s so they give them at least some tools to deal with all the T10s the T8s are facing. 

[leggasiini 1,567]

The gold pen on T8 is probably a placeholder. Remember thats the gold pen the tank used to have when it was leaked in 2016, but it slso had 257 AP or something.

They did the ssme thing with the AMX 30s - they nerfed the regular pen but didnt nerf the gold pen - gold pen got eventually nerfed as well. No way this is intentional, especislly considering the fact its APCR. 

Looking at the normal pen, the gold pen is probably supposed to be like 240-250, which will be very shitty in current mm. The 100mm looks already better on that.

Small gun is the best for tier 8-9 but for tier 10 the bigass gun is visblr because almost the same GH, very good acc and aim time for that gun and even the DPM is almost the same. 280 gold pen is super sucky, though. Atleast Type 5 14cm no longer has shittiest non-HE gold in its tier, though that is gun with 0.07 worse accuracy and slow as fuck platform.

[GehakteMolen 2,063]

First game Amx Mle 45 with 80% crew and no 75% first skill: 

Victory! Battle: Sacred Valley Vehicles: AMX M4 mle. 45 Experience received: 4.150 (x2 for the first victory each day) Credits earned: 55.227 Battle achievements: High Caliber, Mastery Badge: "Ace Tanker"

This gonna be expensive ._.

[FavreFan4ever 281]

I ground out around 80k xp a year or two ago when this line was teased (for the umpteenth time), hoping I won't have to buy it back. It's not bad, but it's a tier 7 HT that isn't a Tiger or a T29.

[FavreFan4ever 281]

The best part (IMO) is that both the tier 9 and 10 can overmatch STRVs!

[Canadian_Reaper 90]

2 hours ago, GehakteMolen said:

First game Amx Mle 45 with 80% crew and no 75% first skill: 

Victory! Battle: Sacred Valley Vehicles: AMX M4 mle. 45 Experience received: 4.150 (x2 for the first victory each day) Credits earned: 55.227 Battle achievements: High Caliber, Mastery Badge: "Ace Tanker"

This gonna be expensive ._.

Article says the ETA is January, so you have some time...

[Hally 126]

7 hours ago, GehakteMolen said:

It used to be really, really strong with full gold, since 225 pen, 330 alpha and OP dpm are a powerfull combo (no idea if it still has the OP dpm with the 100mm, but it used to have KV5 dpm and penetration, on tier 7...)

OP dpm is still there, just the pen isn't what it used to be. No more 10 degrees normalization to go through is-3s and KTs like tissue paper.

[hall0 1,095]

Great. The T9 and the T10 will suffer from the same weakness the Type 4 still has and the Type 5 had. The shoulder plates are much weaker than the ufp. If you angle your tank, you expose a massive weakspot and your armor basically becomes meaningless. 

 

[Grimdope 5]

Didn't one of these have a 50B hull back in 2012?

[hall0 1,095]

1 hour ago, Grimdope said:

Didn't one of these have a 50B hull back in 2012?

Yes it had

 

[Grimdope 5]

36 minutes ago, hall0 said:

Yes it had

 

Baffling to go with a tier 9 and 10 that look identical to a tier 8 prem, when that sexy beast could be in there.

[nabucodonsor 461]

What is really interesting to me is the lower view range the tier ten has compared to the other heavies. Is WG testing also a VR reduction for tier X HTs?

[leggasiini 1,567]

Nah, Cranevagina also has 390 VR.

8 hours ago, hall0 said:

Great. The T9 and the T10 will suffer from the same weakness the Type 4 still has and the Type 5 had. The shoulder plates are much weaker than the ufp. If you angle your tank, you expose a massive weakspot and your armor basically becomes meaningless. 

 

Same problem with Liberte, its shit sidescraper and so are these. Just angle the front from corners

[Nkrlz 54]

It's nice to see the big guns are shit (pen wise), more shitter will equip them and bounce 3/4 of their shots.