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sohojacques

Standard B is ... balanced?

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Can we even still speak of balance in a game that doesn’t really have any?

Haven’t got the top engine yet. Gets around okay without it.

As far as I can tell the autoreloading mechanic, which could easily be OP, is tempered by having tier 7/8 dpm. Nice bit of novelty in the game.

I think being able to switch between shells without having to reload the whole clip would be a reasonable buff. 

268 pen standard shell is glorious. Definitely need to settle the reticle before flinging the first though. 

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16 minutes ago, sohojacques said:

Can we even still speak of balance in a game that doesn’t really have any?

2018 Balanced TM.

Personally i find DPM is only really critical if you are going to play ultra brawly levels of aggression so not really std b thing anyway. But the std b is like a leo prot on steroids. Use hard cover / vision then unleash. Add in an extra rule for the auto reloaders is to try not to take the last shot unless it's for a kill or you know you are going to be in transit or something so the longer reload / dpm won't really be an issue.

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But there really is no way around the dpm when it is an issue. Even restricting yourself to 1 or two shots still leaves you with terrible dpm. And that’s fine I’m my opinion. I think it’s a good implementation of the mechanic. 

But just let us swap shells mid clip so I can start using the glorious hesh this tank comes with. 

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2 hours ago, Ezz said:

But the std b is like a leo prot on steroids.

The leo prot is already a decent machine since it received gun depression and dpm, the std b is basically the same thing but min/maxes the ability to punish tanks and gives the ability to clip things out for more in exchange for losing out in fights where you need 4-5 shots. Pretty much means its better in almost every situation. 

 

Basically its a tank that lives or dies on how you play, like pretty much all the autoreloaders bar the tier 8 progetto to an extent which still functions very well as a single shot medium if you limit yourself to 1 shot. Of course limiting yourself to 1 shot is a waste of a progetto, but you get the point. 

You should never get into positions where you need to fire off all your shots and then some, but if you do, its all about calculating the shots you need and when you should wait for your reload. i.e. 1 shot then wait for reload, then unload or 2 shots then 2. Ideally you should never ever pick on someone you can't clip out. If you can trade during the end game and need to end things fast, they need to be 4 shottable. Needing 5+ shots is a situation you should never get into. 

 

The thing about the autoreloaders is it requires a lot more thought than autoloaders and single shot tanks to maximise the advantage of having one, which makes the mechanic a lot more 'fun' in a clip-management and min/maxing sense. 

 

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Always remaining at least a perceived threat does offset the effective dpm difference between the B and the T50. Definitely fun managing the mechanic.

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Put my shitty win rate in the Pantera down to tier 8 MM . But I can’t seem to win games in the B either. 176 games for 50% WR. Only recently dropped below 2.4k dpg. I know that’s nothing to write home about. But 50 fucking %....

I know I could be getting more assisted. But I’m also still working on my 3rd crew skill and can’t afford to run food. So my view range and camo are still subpar. But ultimately I have no clue as to why I can’t win in this tank. Got any pro tips for me folks?

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On 1/8/2019 at 9:34 AM, Tarski said:

This tank is delightful. 

I would caveat that by saying it is delightful when upgraded.

I'm finding the stock grind pretty painful, so painful in fact I couldn't bring myself to finish the last 5k XP for the top gun and used free XP. I was doing sub 40% win rate with DPG of only 1,100 (worse than my tier 8 mediums). At least with the top gun you can actually do some decent damage, but the mobility still feels sub-par with the stock engine.

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1 hour ago, Balthazars said:

I would caveat that by saying it is delightful when upgraded.

That's fair. I usually have some free exp saved for tier 9 stock grinds, so I never experienced it. 

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