Facepalm - winter edition

[nabucodonsor 461]

By looking at the comments it appears:

- WG has found a way to go around the gambling issue related to lootboxes so they can sell the boxes even in Belgium

- WG employee replying on EU comment section: Yes, gifts... please note that we don´t share details about boxes... more details very soon! Stay tune! -DelhRoh; maybe free stuff?

- Lefefefefefefe is going to be sold. So no more lower tier gameplay.

[Brummbaer 0]

27 minutes ago, nabucodonsor said:

- WG has found a way to go around the gambling issue related to lootboxes so they can sell the boxes even in Belgium

Did they? The French article on the game's portal says they won't sell loot boxes for Belgium: https://worldoftanks.eu/fr/news/general-news/Helping-Hand-for-Holiday-Ops/

 

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Important: ces boîtes ne seront pas disponibles en Belgique.

 

[Deus__Ex__Machina 989]

So they are offering the chance to gamble for a tier 5 with the armor of a tier 7, and a low tier arty that fires every 10 seconds, is super accurate, and was the only arty in game that got to keep its AP/HEAT rounds? get fucked have fun new players.

and for the higher tier tanks they are offering every widely know premium thats either toxic or unfair for game-play. get fucked have fun tier 6's. 

oh and yeah im including the IS-3A in that list ahead of time. because while i personally haven't played it in its new state, the idea of a high alpha tier 8 HT that gets a reverse auto-reloading system doesn't necessarily scream "balanced".

 

[nabucodonsor 461]

55 minutes ago, Deus__Ex__Machina said:

So they are offering the chance to gamble for a tier 5 with the armor of a tier 7, and a low tier arty that fires every 10 seconds, is super accurate, and was the only arty in game that got to keep its AP/HEAT rounds? get fucked have fun new players.

and for the higher tier tanks they are offering every widely know premium thats either toxic or unfair for game-play. get fucked have fun tier 6's. 

oh and yeah im including the IS-3A in that list ahead of time. because while i personally haven't played it in its new state, the idea of a high alpha tier 8 HT that gets a reverse auto-reloading system doesn't necessarily scream "balanced".

 

It's balanced in russia. Uncle Stalin is worried about your opinion. Maybe you are too stressed working for filthy bourgeois. Abandon your money and property to WG thus freeing yourself from the enslavement of capital. And then why dont you go for a holiday, maybe hop on train to Siberia. Have a fun weekend in a frendly Gulag!

1 hour ago, Brummbaer said:

Did they? The French article on the game's portal says they won't sell loot boxes for Belgium: https://worldoftanks.eu/fr/news/general-news/Helping-Hand-for-Holiday-Ops/

 

 

That's what they said. Maybe they will "find a way around it". Check the comments.

[hall0 1,095]

When they started to list the boring T5 premiums I was like "wow this gonna suck this year" but then they said Defender and I literally laughed out laud. After the Type they gonna use the Defender as bait. What a bunch of assholes. 

[Ham_ 434]

Lefefefe E-25 and Defender oh joy

Seriously Type 59 had rare factor and wasn't broke af why not use it again ????

 

Edit: Just saw the 3D tier 10 camos, that Mad Max Grille is sweeeeeet

 WG you actually made something nice why did you have to spoil it ;_;

[Crossfader 1,142]

10 hours ago, Deus__Ex__Machina said:

 

oh and yeah im including the IS-3A in that list ahead of time. because while i personally haven't played it in its new state, the idea of a high alpha tier 8 HT that gets a reverse auto-reloading system doesn't necessarily scream "balanced".

 

WAT since when is the IS-3A an auto loader... wasnt it just a faster firing IS-3 ????

[Ham_ 434]

11 minutes ago, Crossfader said:

WAT since when is the IS-3A an auto loader... wasnt it just a faster firing IS-3 ????

It was on supertest, as IS-3A Test or something, but now they are replacing the original IS-3A with the autoloading variant.

[Crossfader 1,142]

3 hours ago, Ham_ said:

It was on supertest, as IS-3A Test or something, but now they are replacing the original IS-3A with the autoloading variant.

i got one way wayyyy back, are they actually replacing the old IS-3a with this new actuall auto reloading one ?

[Vindi 414]

9 minutes ago, Crossfader said:

i got one way wayyyy back, are they actually replacing the old IS-3a with this new actuall auto reloading one ?

yes

[Deus__Ex__Machina 989]

2 hours ago, Crossfader said:

i got one way wayyyy back, are they actually replacing the old IS-3a with this new actuall auto reloading one ?

its like the Italians auto-reloading system, but in reverse.

 

[Ham_ 434]

WG Logic: Hey we power creeped everything so Defender is balanced now

[Hellvn 578]

25 minutes ago, Ham_ said:

WG Logic: Hey we power creeped everything so Defender is balanced now

I know your post was (hopefully) tongue-in-cheek, but ironically this is what WG needs to do to balance the OP premiums if they are unable to directly nerf them.

The fact that the defender is *such* a bullshit tank still amazes me. Like which bright spark at WG decided it would be a good idea to introduce a tier 8 heavy with a weakspot lower plate of minimum 220 effective armor and a pike and turret that can bounce 10s.  Not to meant sides that also regularly bounce 200pen guns.

[Crossfader 1,142]

5 hours ago, Deus__Ex__Machina said:

its like the Italians auto-reloading system, but in reverse.

 

too bad i cant be asked to play WoT at all anymore, i hear they gave away a T-50-2 to alot of older accounts, probably have one, cant be asked to install it.

My levels of not giving a shit about that game have never been so low... they could gift me every premium tank and it still wouldn't be enough.

[hall0 1,095]

I like WGs ad video

I dont speak a single word but it must be something like this. "We know it sucked, so we buffed the living shit out of it. Buy it!!!"

[Ham_ 434]

On 12/11/2018 at 8:51 PM, hall0 said:

I like WGs ad video

I dont speak a single word but it must be something like this. "We know it sucked, so we buffed the living shit out of it. Buy it!!!"

I swear WG spend all their money on cinematics

They said something like "automatic loading, fast time"..

[Jesse_the_Scout 2,100]

I took a 200 box sample posted on The Armored Patrol and Quickybaby's 200 box opening and combined them into a 400 box sample. I assigned value based on raw gold values with my own assessment tweaks, which means I counted credits and garage slots as 0 value since I don't care about using gold to get either these days. I counted premium days at a rate based on buying one full year at a 15% discount, the best deal you typically can get.

Note there are several other bonuses not included in the gold totals here, including 1 special commander, maxing out the in-game decoration Christmas bonuses, 4 skins for tier 10 tanks, all those garage slots, and all those credits.

The rate of premium tank drop appears to be about 1/6.8 boxes (~15%), with the odds of a tier 7 or 8 rare tank dropping about 15% of that time. That means every box has a ballpark odd of dropping a high value tank item of ~2.3%. Given the low drop rate and still somewhat small number of samples that number could still vary significantly. I'd call it 2% conservatively and say that's probably pretty close. Considering there's a 1/4 chance of THAT 2.3% of getting an IS-3A and you're looking at 0.6% chance per box, or needing about 180 boxes to get the thing every one is freaking about. That seems to mesh roughly with the "150 boxes" value other people have been passing around. Either way I completely agree with QB that any one buying these boxes because they want a specific tank is the height of cringe-worthiness and math fail.

Have to give them credit in that the amounts are pretty generous, especially if you're willing to fork over the highest end commitment. 250 gold per dollar is a typical WG deal, with 300 being a good exchange rate. 400 is pretty high and 600 is darn near crazy. If you want gold this is hands down the time and way to do it. Personally I'm wildly undecided on what to spend, as I've been pretty down on the game lately and haven't bought anything since last year. I wish they had given more info out on the big 1.5 rebalance plan, if I knew some real changes were coming (or weren't) it'd be easier to justify buying anything (or nothing).

[Ham_ 434]

2 hours ago, Jesse_the_Scout said:

I took a 200 box sample posted on The Armored Patrol and Quickybaby's 200 box opening and combined them into a 400 box sample. I assigned value based on raw gold values with my own assessment tweaks, which means I counted credits and garage slots as 0 value since I don't care about using gold to get either these days. I counted premium days at a rate based on buying one full year at a 15% discount, the best deal you typically can get.

Note there are several other bonuses not included in the gold totals here, including 1 special commander, maxing out the in-game decoration Christmas bonuses, 4 skins for tier 10 tanks, all those garage slots, and all those credits.

The rate of premium tank drop appears to be about 1/6.8 boxes (~15%), with the odds of a tier 7 or 8 rare tank dropping about 15% of that time. That means every box has a ballpark odd of dropping a high value tank item of ~2.3%. Given the low drop rate and still somewhat small number of samples that number could still vary significantly. I'd call it 2% conservatively and say that's probably pretty close. Considering there's a 1/4 chance of THAT 2.3% of getting an IS-3A and you're looking at 0.6% chance per box, or needing about 180 boxes to get the thing every one is freaking about. That seems to mesh roughly with the "150 boxes" value other people have been passing around. Either way I completely agree with QB that any one buying these boxes because they want a specific tank is the height of cringe-worthiness and math fail.

Have to give them credit in that the amounts are pretty generous, especially if you're willing to fork over the highest end commitment. 250 gold per dollar is a typical WG deal, with 300 being a good exchange rate. 400 is pretty high and 600 is darn near crazy. If you want gold this is hands down the time and way to do it. Personally I'm wildly undecided on what to spend, as I've been pretty down on the game lately and haven't bought anything since last year. I wish they had given more info out on the big 1.5 rebalance plan, if I knew some real changes were coming (or weren't) it'd be easier to justify buying anything (or nothing).

Boxes decrease in value the more you open, because you get less and less exclusives and don't progress anymore on the festive level list.

[hazzgar 730]

On 12/11/2018 at 9:51 PM, hall0 said:

I like WGs ad video

I dont speak a single word but it must be something like this. "We know it sucked, so we buffed the living shit out of it. Buy it!!!"

Funny thing is statistically it did not suck. It was just annoying to play

[Balthazars 210]

Well, given I haven't spent any money on gaming in general, and given my lack of time, it looks like WoT will continue to be my main gaming outlet next year, decided to go ahead and buy 75 of the boxes. To be honest, I can't really complain about the outcome.

I got all of the unique skins (even though I don't own the IS7 or the Batchat), all of the tier 5 premiums, and the E25, the Defender and the IS3A (the only of the 'big' premiums that I didn't get was the one that I already have, being the Skorp G) - although no repeats though, at least not that I noticed. Given the outlay, definitely have to say that I got 'value' for money.

[Tarski 341]

From 75 boxes I got three IS-3As, a defender, and one or two Skorpions. Plus lower tier premiums and all the other goodies. 

[Archaic_One 1,853]

I bought 25 for myself and 25 for my son.  I got a Defender and 14k gold, he got an E25 and 11k gold.  Combined with the 4 free girls, tank discount coupons, and ~ month of premium time it is still the best value in WoT if you wanted to spend real $$.