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Nice not needing the tracks to mount the top turret and gun. Stock engine gets the tank around on the flat at top speed just fine so leave it ‘til last.

As I said in the 14 5 thread, the gun isn’t much of an upgrade from the tier 8. So you go from having one of the very best guns at the tier to having one that is merely average.* Having some armour is nice but it’s very situational. 

I’m still finding the siege mode a bit awkward. But nowhere near as awkward as my current dpg, which after 34 games is at tier 8 levels of meh.

*Of course, a merely average MT gun at tier 9 is still pretty good.

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Crap, I researched the tracks, and engine. Radio carried over... grinding the x3 from premium account for the top gun and turret. I go on business trip on Sunday... hoping to get it fully researched by the weekend. 

It looks like the tier 9 has some turret armor, compared to the tier 8. I don't want to slum it in Tier 8's, so I just researched past it. Is the 8 any good?

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The tier 8 is a really good tank if you can play paper tanks.

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45 minutes ago, Matross said:

Is the 8 any good?

Yes. It’s gun is so far ahead of most tier 8s. Really highlights the gulf between tiers 8 and 9. 

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First impression with everything but the engine researched? The gun is much worse, somehow, than the top gun on the tier 8. It shoots dirt and sky even when fully aimed. So far this one seems much worse tier for tier than the tier 8. But that's just first impressions,  I guess.

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@Kymrel I’d rate the tier 8 as a tier 8.5 while the UDES 16 is an average tier 9; so balanced. 

And yes, I felt the tier 8s gun was more reliable as well. But the gulf of expectation is so high between tiers 8 and 9. And as we’ve discussed elsewhere, MM changes are probably also playing a role in this.

I don’t regret selling the 14 5. My few tech tree tier 8s rust in my garage as I play the tier for credits. The 16 is a novel addition to the game that hasn’t broken anything with its arrival. I’m having fun in it.

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It seems to have the typical binary Swedish armor. Low-caliber guns have massive problems penning but Rusky tanks lol-pen unless the angle is extreme.

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I’ve actually had a good amount of success face hugging tier 8 ruski HTs and TDs when getting yolo’ed, because their shitty gun depression equals ricochet. But I think high tier HEAT will trash you more often then not. Really need tanks.gg to get their armour models working to know for sure.

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I like how 1,253 base XP is a second class mastery badge. The values out there are nuts.

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Either I'm really unlucky, or the engine catches fire like a stable full of dry manure under Arizona sun. 4 games, 3 engine fire, GGs

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Arty shot: frontal engine fire

122 pen: frontal engine fire

HE at tracks: frontal engine fire

????? what is this

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Yeah, I normally don't run food but the gun seems to need it. But it burns so much I think I may need to use an extinguisher. I've been running a firefighting directive, since they've given me about 300 of those, but I still burn for a lot of HP in far too many games.

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It's time to bite the bullet and stop using food and take an extinguisher. This thing lights up like a Christmas tree and even with the firefighting directive I'm burning for 600ish HP.

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I've been watching some RU streamers. Pretty much all of them are using the AFE instead of food and are also running rammer, vents and optics, no vert stab. Apparently the stabilization is very good already without it.

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Not on the 16 (the tier 9). The tier 10s stabilisation is considerably better however.

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i run food, fire directive, but then I have a shit crew with a female commander (so I at least have 6th) as I want my good crew in the Emil/Kran (currently in the Leo)...IIRC im running vstab, rammer, optics 

this is on the tier 8

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I didn't run extinguisher in the tier 8, but find you really have to in the tier 9.

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23 hours ago, DirtyACE7 said:

I've been watching some RU streamers. Pretty much all of them are using the AFE instead of food and are also running rammer, vents and optics, no vert stab. Apparently the stabilization is very good already without it.

The gun handling is not that good. 

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22 hours ago, DirtyACE7 said:

Sorry, I was mistaking the tier 9 for tier 10.

t10 is good but still not better than other tanks that still use vstabs

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