My thoughts on the game as current, and why I don't play as much any more.

[Politx_Killer 803]

On 7/9/2019 at 3:33 PM, Assassin7 said:

I personally don't find the MM to bed that bad. or at least, no worse than it was a few years back. So there was nothing really to complain about for me on that front. 

Fair enough. Recently played a handful of games because I hate myself that much. Can honestly say my single biggest issue is map design. It’s basically copy/paste in 3/4 choke points and just fuck around with elevation. You can’t flank anything without being fucked over by TDS camping in bushed up spots specially designed to fuck over semi aggressive play. (I haven’t played for a while so rusty as hell)

Basically it’s either have Russian Stalinium for armour or play so passively you are best off playing arty*

 

*Asia meta

[sohojacques 271]

2 hours ago, Politx_Killer said:

my single biggest issue is map design.

Yeah I can put up with everything else but maps post patch 1.0 really sucked the fun out of the game for me. Haven’t spent a cent on the game this year and can’t see that changing without major map revisions/reversions occurring (so never).

[Diriz0n 1,000,043]

l would like to think, to say....that map design is the largest detriment infesting the pit. And do not get me wrong, l definitely consider map design and size in certain maps, problems but there are larger issues 

 

RNG at 25% is staggering, ridiculous.... by far the largest in any main stream game l have ever taken part of. What the honest fuck, was the specific belarussian tard  (or group)  in charge thinking, when that was decided on. 

l have said this tens of times, but.....WG has not a single fucking clue concerning their matchmaker, fairness and health, and honest gamers experience. 7 years ago, they had the genuine idea, that a bus tank T1H or KV1, could appropriately meet an lS4 or T34  (then, tier 9s)  or even more lol,  an object 7O4 / T95. Same with artillery. lt took awhile for that to improve, just to +3, and fuck sake light tanks, even longer to go to +3  -  then finally what we have +2/-2. Then their minor changes with tier 3s, templates, Etc. Well, guys, its been 8 fucking years, and they still do not have a clue. MM is still among the most complained over concepts. Just bring fucking +1/-1 across the board, and complaints for sure drop by 75% over fairness. The strong following of Front Lines, is proof enough that strong support and queued up matches, WlLL HAPPEN, with narrow MM tiers. And they can employ numerous templates, 4-11  -to-  11-4.  But no, WG is near retarded, and won't relent.

Camouflage is another large issue. This is a hidden one  (cheap joke aside)  but ridiculous camo and ninja-ing, causes alot of people frustrating rage and drives others away. No one likes to be killed by a bush wanker. View range does not appropriately counter camo, because bushes are the break point, that offer so much more to just simple vehicular camo possessed by said tank. E25, Strv, SU85B  -  you got your large offenders, but strong camo in general needs to just be toned down.   Take for example counter strike, someone 15Om away kills you with warfare magnum, and you are dead. lt is not because you C0ULD N0T SEE the perpetrator, it is because you did not see him. And if you were not running as fast, and were more focused, you could actually see the shooter. And even with just a hand gun in your hand, still return fire. Probably not effective, of course but you could.  But in this retarded game? You cannot see the shooter. Even if they fire.  Like E25 or an S1. And people hate this shit, and leave.

 

 

 

 

[WhatTheSkara 345]

22 hours ago, Dirizon said:

l would like to think, to say....that map design is the largest detriment infesting the pit. And do not get me wrong, l definitely consider map design and size in certain maps, problems but there are larger issues 

 

RNG at 25% is staggering, ridiculous.... by far the largest in any main stream game l have ever taken part of. What the honest fuck, was the specific belarussian tard  (or group)  in charge thinking, when that was decided on. 

l have said this tens of times, but.....WG has not a single fucking clue concerning their matchmaker, fairness and health, and honest gamers experience. 7 years ago, they had the genuine idea, that a bus tank T1H or KV1, could appropriately meet an lS4 or T34  (then, tier 9s)  or even more lol,  an object 7O4 / T95. Same with artillery. lt took awhile for that to improve, just to +3, and fuck sake light tanks, even longer to go to +3  -  then finally what we have +2/-2. Then their minor changes with tier 3s, templates, Etc. Well, guys, its been 8 fucking years, and they still do not have a clue. MM is still among the most complained over concepts. Just bring fucking +1/-1 across the board, and complaints for sure drop by 75% over fairness. The strong following of Front Lines, is proof enough that strong support and queued up matches, WlLL HAPPEN, with narrow MM tiers. And they can employ numerous templates, 4-11  -to-  11-4.  But no, WG is near retarded, and won't relent.

Camouflage is another large issue. This is a hidden one  (cheap joke aside)  but ridiculous camo and ninja-ing, causes alot of people frustrating rage and drives others away. No one likes to be killed by a bush wanker. View range does not appropriately counter camo, because bushes are the break point, that offer so much more to just simple vehicular camo possessed by said tank. E25, Strv, SU85B  -  you got your large offenders, but strong camo in general needs to just be toned down.   Take for example counter strike, someone 15Om away kills you with warfare magnum, and you are dead. lt is not because you C0ULD N0T SEE the perpetrator, it is because you did not see him. And if you were not running as fast, and were more focused, you could actually see the shooter. And even with just a hand gun in your hand, still return fire. Probably not effective, of course but you could.  But in this retarded game? You cannot see the shooter. Even if they fire.  Like E25 or an S1. And people hate this shit, and leave.

 

 

 

 

I always struggle to find any sense in your posts.

I don't know if it's because of bad English or the extra chromosome you won when you were born.

We get that you don't like the game, but nobody forces you to play it.

[Diriz0n 1,000,043]

2 hours ago, WhatTheSkara said:

I always struggle to find any sense in your posts.

I don't know if it's because of bad English or the extra chromosome you won when you were born.

We get that you don't like the game, but nobody forces you to play it.

 

You like 25% breadth of RNG?

You like constantly being screwed over as bottom tier? You have 8,3OO tier 8 battles. l wouldn't want myself buried at the bottom against tier X tanks that many times. 

l don't fore you to read my posts, spaz. And l certainly don't force any sense out of you, regardless of what little you have. That is that. l mean, for someone to play 75O battles in an LeFH? l can expect you to say something like that. This entire thread is a gripe, over many certain things about the game. Not just mine.

 

[WhatTheSkara 345]

2 hours ago, Dirizon said:

You like 25% breadth of RNG?

You like constantly being screwed over as bottom tier? You have 8,3OO tier 8 battles. l wouldn't want myself buried at the bottom against tier X tanks that many times. 

l don't fore you to read my posts, spaz. And l certainly don't force any sense out of you, regardless of what little you have. That is that. l mean, for someone to play 75O battles in an LeFH? l can expect you to say something like that. This entire thread is a gripe, over many certain things about the game. Not just mine.

>calls someone spaz because 750 games in a lefh

>has 800 games in a t-28 tier 4

>has 976 games in a broken tier 4 russian TD

>has1126 games in a tier 5 premium

Really holding onto that extra chromosome, aren't you?

[Diriz0n 1,000,043]

5 hours ago, WhatTheSkara said:

>calls someone spaz because 750 games in a lefh

>has 800 games in a t-28 tier 4

>has 976 games in a broken tier 4 russian TD

>has1126 games in a tier 5 premium

Really holding onto that extra chromosome, aren't you?

T-28 is a direct fire unit. What l shoot at, can shoot back at me. And although powerful, it still gets one-shot by the plethora of derpers infesting tiers 4-6  (or LeFH) You can watch the Lemmingrush T28 video, go right ahead, its a skill requiring tank. That needs skills to operate and peek. Same goes with SU85B, which hasn't recovered really since the view range changes. Marder ll or FCM36? Did those both always getting dragged up into old tier 5 matches not the pref they have now. 

Pz T25 is a standard tier 5 shitter. And it went to tier 8. Everyone knows that, except you apparently. 

These shits aren't as bad as you may think, And regardless, l do not play them anymore. Whats my last low tiers played over who knows how long? A handful of games in AC1? Sav42? LT vz 38? L6O? But LeFH, really? Nothing this game compares to the disease spreading shit that is known as the LeFH, possibly the most hated tank this game. You can't even begin to say shit about that. LeFH is the most shits of sky shits, this game has to offer. 

What, you want to be able to label someone as Mr Downs syndrome, who has valid complaints -- And then what, expect nothing in return? l called you a spaz, because you were being one. And true to that word, someone who plays among the most horrid tanks the game has to offer and and that people hate. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5bmtiOuJxY&t=154s

Clearly l am not the only one who thinks about these things that cause gaming toxicity.  

[WhatTheSkara 345]

Since when tier 4 required any skills besides driving up the red line and clicking stuff?

Anyway thank you for the obvious attention seeking negrep

[Diriz0n 1,000,043]

2 hours ago, WhatTheSkara said:

Since when tier 4 required any skills besides driving up the red line and clicking stuff?

Anyway thank you for the obvious attention seeking negrep

Not sure what you are trying to pull off here, or you are here just to talk shit. 

Because you have done a terrible job trying to back up what you say, meaning you are just here to diarrhea from the mouth.

T-28 medium gets penetrated and one shot by any tank with the 3.7in QF Howitzer  (which are many)  1O5mm M4  (which are many)  1O5mm 42 L28  (many)  U11 122mm  (many)  not to mention the French and Swede 1O5mm dupe guns. And 85mm, 9Omm, SU1OO / KV85 D1O guns also penetrate you very likely with HE too. So we are not talking about just FV183 or 4K5, or maybe an old Type 5 or Jag Pz firing HE, and delivering a one-shot to a light target,  we are talking a huge amount of opposing tanks, swiftly delivering a one-shot to T-28. And l have not even begun to include arty, which do the same too. T-28 is very large, has poor camo, bad gun dep necessitating thinking when you act. So basically you got the skorp G effect, you are a glass cannon.  Glass cannons, in light of their inherit properties, aren't ridiculously over-powered tanks. And you see this, because 47-5O% players, the overwhelming population base, aren't over-achieving in glass cannons. 

Since when are there any skills at all, sitting red line and lobbing LeFH rounds everywhere.  1O out of 1O times, you are going to lose an argument trying to compare playing arty (a fucking LeFH) against a tank. Whether l want to insult you or not, that aside, you are being a bonehead in principle. 

[LamaLeif 92]

Stop trying to make excuses for tier 4, 5 and arty, it's all shit and we all know it. You're both trying to polish a turd here, doesn't matter how much you polish it, it's still a piece of shit.

[Diriz0n 1,000,043]

56 minutes ago, LamaLeif said:

Stop trying to make excuses for tier 4, 5 and arty, it's all shit and we all know it. You're both trying to polish a turd here, doesn't matter how much you polish it, it's still a piece of shit.

He has got a big mouth, and he opens it too often.

[Saffee 432]

There are tanks below tier 8? 

[Wanderjar 298]

It worth pointing out, that 25% RNG is actually BETTER than IRL standards even these days. back in ww2, 3 rounds on target out of 50 was considered very accurate.

I would also say to the point on camo, make the tanks visible, but remove the highlighting and OTMs. maybe have the mini map with a type marker and force the team to type in chat what they think it is or what it is from their hit logs. Encourage team work and communication, much like a actual armored division (or BCT) does. let players drop markers on the ground (similar to arty does with the T) and let it be semi permenent on the mini map. Dont let arty have any vision at all, and just have them shoot at the ground markers the team lays down. also much like IRL

 

[YesThatWasAPCR 1,600]

What is this WoT you speak of? Sounds like a shit game if you ask me.

[Gryphon_ 541]

On 6/24/2019 at 5:29 PM, Assassin7 said:

Vehicle Balance: 

.....

They then released the 268v4, which single handedly completely destroyed my desire to play this game. It has never returned to the levels it was before the V4 was released. Im sure everyone remembers, but clan wars became "whoever has the most 268v4s wins, regardless of strategy" it was the most cancer period I've ever seen in this game in my life. And then they nerfed it. barely. they gave it a slap on the wrist. Thankfully it stopped that retarded clan wars meta, however the tank is still grossly Overpowered and needs far more extensive nerfs. Fuck that thing.

....

 

That 268-4 did it for me too. I stopped playing CW, then stopped playing for months. I've recently returned and played a few hundred battles in my lights and meds, only to discover that almost all my tanks are now officially out the meta. 

The only good news is that when playing the T49 without the DERP I've been having some gg's, so there is hope.

[Assassin7 4,353]

On 7/20/2019 at 4:44 AM, Dirizon said:

 

You like 25% breadth of RNG?

You like constantly being screwed over as bottom tier? You have 8,3OO tier 8 battles. l wouldn't want myself buried at the bottom against tier X tanks that many times. 

l don't fore you to read my posts, spaz. And l certainly don't force any sense out of you, regardless of what little you have. That is that. l mean, for someone to play 75O battles in an LeFH? l can expect you to say something like that. This entire thread is a gripe, over many certain things about the game. Not just mine.

 

Dude the only thing Im confused about for you is why you use letter Os instead of number 0s.

 

Please, please for the love of god can you just tell me why? Ive asked you like 5 seperate times on various forum posts

[Sleepy_Moon 2]

55 minutes ago, Assassin7 said:

Dude the only thing Im confused about for you is why you use letter Os instead of number 0s.

 

Please, please for the love of god can you just tell me why? Ive asked you like 5 seperate times on various forum posts

I w0uld als0 like t0 kn0w this. 

[Ezz 1,770]

1 just thought he was be1ng we1rd.

[Diriz0n 1,000,043]

On 7/19/2019 at 10:36 AM, WhatTheSkara said:

I always struggle to find any sense in your posts.

I don't know if it's because of bad English or the extra chromosome you won when you were born.

We get that you don't like the game, but nobody forces you to play it.

 

17 hours ago, Assassin7 said:

Dude 

 

Makes sense.

25% RNG and +2/-2 MM don't make sense.

Front lines is proof enough, that even equal tier MM would work. And people were playing FL, right to closing each night, 3am

+1/-1 MM would work even better, shortening those queues a tad more. Heck, proof enough the tier 3 drop to -1/+1 MM required no re-balancing at all.

 

 

 

[WhatTheSkara 345]

1 hour ago, Dirizon said:

 

 

Makes sense.

25% RNG and +2/-2 MM don't make sense.

Front lines is proof enough, that even equal tier MM would work. And people were playing FL, right to closing each night, 3am

+1/-1 MM would work even better, shortening those queues a tad more. Heck, proof enough the tier 3 drop to -1/+1 MM required no re-balancing at all.

 

 

 

why are you mentioning me again?

 

I can agree with rng, 25% across the board is just stupid and should be reduced (to different values, say 15% damage 10% pen as an example) along with dispersion.

 

FL is not the proof of +1/-1 MM working (pubs are, but apparently you're too focused on tiers nobody gives a shit about, seriously, who cares about tier 3/4/5s apart from you?)

FL is just the proof of WG's map design being ass. You have a map in which you can flank enemies and wreck them from different angles. 0 premium rounds needed, even for defenders/vks because you can get to their sides/rears pretty easily. You can abuse vision and camo (apart from the cancer spotting planes, which btw will be fixed with 1.6 according to WG), again, skill based gameplay.

Also, I don't know if you've noticed, but people play FL to get insane amounts of credits and a completely broken tier 9 reward. Not because of the MM, because most t8 pub games now are full t8 and they're still cancer, mostly because of map design forcing you into corridors and bottlenecks against stuff that you can barely pen.

Again, for the millionth time, +/-2 is not the problem, armour creep and shit maps are.

[Diriz0n 1,000,043]

Can you read?  Where did l say l am focused on low tiers.  What is it, my last 2K games over 2 years are all tiers 7+ ?  Maybe l have played a handful, probably not even 5O flat, in low tiers to either pass through tech tree exp, or playing dumb prems.  The majority of recent battles are 2 light tank grinds, tier 8 prem tank 3-Mark grinds, or even higher tiers. 

l mentioned you, because apparently others aren't having any trouble at all understanding the concepts

FL is an effective way to show +1/-1MM would work awesome. Because people are so keen on playing it, not just for its silver bonus, exp bonus, tech tree exp bonus, or prizes to be won  -  but also for the environment of simply zero tier difference. lf a population that supports FL, massively from time opened to time closing, can be achieved pubs can definitely make use of +1/-1 MM and not have what WG staff think narrowing queue times or pop losses as a result, what THEY THlNK would result. 

By the way, people play FL for a whole list of reasons. l don't know which is the most important one. 

+2MM  is a large problem. ls it the most nagging problem l have with WG currently? No. Are weak spot removal, up armouring, fast-heavy tank creation, spaced armour  problems? You bet, l agree one-hundred percent.

 

 

[WhatTheSkara 345]

Help me understand this.

You say FL shows +/- 1 is good.

FL is tier 8 only. No 7s or 9s, just 30v30 at tier 8.

How does it show that? When it CANNOT show that? 

The only thing FL shows is that with a good map you don't need to spam premium ammo because you can flank. That's it.

[Diriz0n 1,000,043]

Because WG worries,  +1/-1 MM will ruin queue times and population isn't large enough to support pub battles with a narrower tier spread.

Which is undeniably false, because frontline operates with not +1/-1, but zero tier spread, and still has a strong following. Queues aren't long, only if you play artillery. Not only that, FL is active from start to close.

 

 

[WhatTheSkara 345]

Easy credits, powerful rewards, have you ever thought of that? Not permanent mode? Not the usual slugfest that is the ultra boring random battles mode?

You want the game dumbed down even more so that you don't even have the challenge of fighting stuff that's 2 tiers higher than you. While leaving shit like Minsk, Glacier and Pilsen still in the game.

Congrats, you've destroyed what little fun was left in this game.

Now let's all buy type 5s and 183s and sling HE at each other in corridor maps.

 

I suggest the official forums for your level of autism, pretty sure people will like your stupid ideas.

[Strigonx 442]

are you intentionally using an O instead of a 0 to trigger people?