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Jesus. Can you finally get good? Both at tanks and posting? First of all many players like me focus on spotting more than on damage in lights so they don't pull your wn8 as much. My 3 marked amx 13 57 gives me like 4050 wn8. Not super high for a very hard to 3 mark low tier tank. Hell my 3 marked BC12T sits at somewhere around 3000 so around my Lowe 3 mark.

 

Also lights being bad for the game because they are hard to kill late game? Get good then. Lights are also bad at killing stuff so just don't suck and drive like a moron and you win with them. There is a reason why 95% of lights have wr's between shit and average. 

 

 

Also yeah neg rep is "your post is shit". You get many neg reps because all of your posts are shit .

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I wouldn't say I am a bad player. That just throws out your entire toxic post through the window. And you wish to talk about posting? 

When did I say light tanks were good at killing stuff. Because they have more opportunities to make attempts at causing damage, undetected which would otherwise have meds or TD detected with the same shot - doesn't exactly mean they kill more stuff. Your entire post is heap of slanderous shit.

 

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17 hours ago, Diriz0n said:

I wouldn't say I am a bad player. That just throws out your entire toxic post through the window. And you wish to talk about posting? 

When did I say light tanks were good at killing stuff. Because they have more opportunities to make attempts at causing damage, undetected which would otherwise have meds or TD detected with the same shot - doesn't exactly mean they kill more stuff. Your entire post is heap of slanderous shit.

 

Well you don't get to self define. That just throws your entire stupid reasoning out the window (not through). 

You said light tanks break late game. But to break late game they have to be good at winning. You are just another player who mistakes an annoying tank with a tank that needs a rebalance. "cry cry this thing made it hard for me, wg pls giv easy mode". Yeah lights have more opportunities to cause damage but that is countered by their overall shit damage dealing ability. Late game I'd much rather be facing a light tank even on an open map than a 430U, Obj140, BC25T, Leopard 1 post buffs or any reasonably fast/stealthy med. In a med I can just chase them. In a superheavy they won't damage me. 

 

Also stop crying about my post being toxic. The entire Wotlabs community thinks your posts are nonsense. To make it even worse your post structure is horrible. You can't coherently convey your thoughts. And yes I can judge you on that since a) I have ADHD and severe problems with coherently conveying ideas b) i get paid to judge text structure by very good writers. So stop crying and get good. Both at tanks and posts.

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18 hours ago, Diriz0n said:

I wouldn't say I am a bad player.

I will. And do. Bad, bad player. And poster. #justsayin

Did you get a new kbeyboard yet? #askingforafriend

17 minutes ago, Haswell said:

:princesscorn:

:princesscorn:

 

I could not resist making a double post 

 

 

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Imagine you actually considering me as part of your community instead of a scrub who doesn't know what he is talking about.

 

That'd be pretty sweet ngl

 

EDIT: more garbage on dumpster-fire thread is fine right?

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10 hours ago, hazzgar said:

Well you don't get to self define. That just throws your entire stupid reasoning out the window (not through). 

You said light tanks break late game. But to break late game they have to be good at winning. You are just another player who mistakes an annoying tank with a tank that needs a rebalance. "cry cry this thing made it hard for me, wg pls giv easy mode". Yeah lights have more opportunities to cause damage but that is countered by their overall shit damage dealing ability. Late game I'd much rather be facing a light tank even on an open map than a 430U, Obj140, BC25T, Leopard 1 post buffs or any reasonably fast/stealthy med. In a med I can just chase them. In a superheavy they won't damage me. 

Also stop crying about my post being toxic. The entire Wotlabs community thinks your posts are nonsense. To make it even worse your post structure is horrible. You can't coherently convey your thoughts. And yes I can judge you on that since a) I have ADHD and severe problems with coherently conveying ideas b) i get paid to judge text structure by very good writers. So stop crying and get good. Both at tanks and posts.

 

Everyone self defines. Everyone knows them-self, better than anyone else here knows that is for sure. You do it, I do it, the next guy does it. Everyone does. And throwing an object through a window, still culminates in throwing an object out one. The result is same. Do not you agree 2+2 = 4. But so too is 1+1+1+1

I agree. Imagine that, I agree with the assessment and remark  -  light tanks break late games. But to do well late game, to break it and control it, still doesn't necessarily mean winning. Good people lose many times, and many times with efforts above and beyond, yet still a loss. I am not even talking about WN8, or marks, because late game you can acquire lots of either dmg or assisted, but it doesn't necessarily mean winning. You just agreed with the point of the thread, LT are problems. Especially now tih the ability to remove maps.

Continuing on, what you are describing, is arty. And how many people complain about arty. Arty and LT, according to WoT, have been singled out and changed more than any other classes over the last few years. Why is that? Like light tanks, do arty dominate the scoreboard? What would you rather face, obj med tank or Chieftain or 279E?  or T92 and GWE. Sure, one is annoying, you hit the nail right on the head with the hammer, but the others are death dealers that topple games. Yes, I would RATHER fight an arty, or a LT than these typical vehicles that score 3K+ in even potato hands. I agree with you totally. Type 5 even, did this thing regularly score 4K dmg avg compared to tanks like Chieftain, 279E, the now post-buff missions object? No, and you know it. Type, LTs, arty - these annoyances, what makes them such? Broken attributes. They were broken. And WG has come down hard on them, haven't they. So like the many people that hate artillery, I hate light tanks for the same reasons, that have class specific attributes which are broken. And I am not even dwelling on the broken monstrosities known as EBRs. "cry, cry, cry - I want easy mode?''  Mr., it is actually cry cry cry, I want easy mode removed. Do I want a game where it is heavy tanks only, a few hundred meters apart trading over a corner, no of course not. I never said that. Type 5, FV4K5, KV2, oi, arty, LT - all these broken examples. I'd even lump lump in Strv and E25. Broken first, then focus on over-powered.

Seems you can cry over my posts (although to be fair, to not be ignorant, maybe it was just Has and not you)  but the moment I retort, it leads to an ro.  Whatever, I am not disputing that, I deserved it. But it definitely seems people, for whatever the reason, may freely fire at will without fear of backlash.

Actually not so. Perhaps if you would read, you see such. I still stick with every single thing I have stated in this thread, but if we were to re-wind the clock, if  Superman  were to turn back time, you would clearly see that I was usually given positive votes. There have been people who have stated that my posts more or less make sense. Again, it comes down to this thread, which yes I still firmly believe to the letter. 

And no, this is forum over a video game. Though I may take pride in playing well to earn statistics and rewards, it still is ultimately a video game that does not pay rent, help me work, Etc. Meaning it is not serious, in the scheme of things. Where and why you come up with serious, I haven't a clue. It is the internet, take it easy, have a drink. 

You cannot judge anyone. For all we know, all of this, is make-belief. Fantasy. You could be Prince Charles, and I wouldn't care. You could be Prince Charles, a F16 pilot, a lion tamer, and a flaming bowling pin juggler, and I would not care. Nor would I even know, or care to even know, or even wish to subconsciously find out. As such, I most certainly do not care about your problems if you have them or not, your focal condition if you have it or not, or how you get paid  -  if you do so or not. Don't care. Hold your opinions, sure. But keep the contemptuous judging to yourself. 

I have kept this civil, as Has has told me to mind my manners. Although, he may still ro me for a word salad. We will see. See you on the battlefield. 

 

  

 

 

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7 hours ago, Diriz0n said:

 

Everyone self defines. Everyone knows them-self, better than anyone else here knows that is for sure. You do it, I do it, the next guy does it. Everyone does. And throwing an object through a window, still culminates in throwing an object out one. The result is same. Do not you agree 2+2 = 4. But so too is 1+1+1+1

I agree. Imagine that, I agree with the assessment and remark  -  light tanks break late games. But to do well late game, to break it and control it, still doesn't necessarily mean winning. Good people lose many times, and many times with efforts above and beyond, yet still a loss. I am not even talking about WN8, or marks, because late game you can acquire lots of either dmg or assisted, but it doesn't necessarily mean winning. You just agreed with the point of the thread, LT are problems. Especially now tih the ability to remove maps.

Continuing on, what you are describing, is arty. And how many people complain about arty. Arty and LT, according to WoT, have been singled out and changed more than any other classes over the last few years. Why is that? Like light tanks, do arty dominate the scoreboard? What would you rather face, obj med tank or Chieftain or 279E?  or T92 and GWE. Sure, one is annoying, you hit the nail right on the head with the hammer, but the others are death dealers that topple games. Yes, I would RATHER fight an arty, or a LT than these typical vehicles that score 3K+ in even potato hands. I agree with you totally. Type 5 even, did this thing regularly score 4K dmg avg compared to tanks like Chieftain, 279E, the now post-buff missions object? No, and you know it. Type, LTs, arty - these annoyances, what makes them such? Broken attributes. They were broken. And WG has come down hard on them, haven't they. So like the many people that hate artillery, I hate light tanks for the same reasons, that have class specific attributes which are broken. And I am not even dwelling on the broken monstrosities known as EBRs. "cry, cry, cry - I want easy mode?''  Mr., it is actually cry cry cry, I want easy mode removed. Do I want a game where it is heavy tanks only, a few hundred meters apart trading over a corner, no of course not. I never said that. Type 5, FV4K5, KV2, oi, arty, LT - all these broken examples. I'd even lump lump in Strv and E25. Broken first, then focus on over-powered.

Seems you can cry over my posts (although to be fair, to not be ignorant, maybe it was just Has and not you)  but the moment I retort, it leads to an ro.  Whatever, I am not disputing that, I deserved it. But it definitely seems people, for whatever the reason, may freely fire at will without fear of backlash.

Actually not so. Perhaps if you would read, you see such. I still stick with every single thing I have stated in this thread, but if we were to re-wind the clock, if  Superman  were to turn back time, you would clearly see that I was usually given positive votes. There have been people who have stated that my posts more or less make sense. Again, it comes down to this thread, which yes I still firmly believe to the letter. 

And no, this is forum over a video game. Though I may take pride in playing well to earn statistics and rewards, it still is ultimately a video game that does not pay rent, help me work, Etc. Meaning it is not serious, in the scheme of things. Where and why you come up with serious, I haven't a clue. It is the internet, take it easy, have a drink. 

You cannot judge anyone. For all we know, all of this, is make-belief. Fantasy. You could be Prince Charles, and I wouldn't care. You could be Prince Charles, a F16 pilot, a lion tamer, and a flaming bowling pin juggler, and I would not care. Nor would I even know, or care to even know, or even wish to subconsciously find out. As such, I most certainly do not care about your problems if you have them or not, your focal condition if you have it or not, or how you get paid  -  if you do so or not. Don't care. Hold your opinions, sure. But keep the contemptuous judging to yourself. 

I have kept this civil, as Has has told me to mind my manners. Although, he may still ro me for a word salad. We will see. See you on the battlefield. 

Mate you can self define but no one will accept your self definition. For the same reason everyone mocks the "I'm not racist but..." argument. If you are bad, you get called bad, even if you don't want to, it's not a gender discussion where you feel you are stats fluid and you are not present on the bad-good player spectrum. You say bad players say, your problems are those of a bad player hence you are a bad player. 

Also yes throwing an object through the window technically is the same but it's a phraseologism. English is a language you either speak well or not. 

Finally your argument of "Good players lose many times" - No mate. The definition of a good player is someone who wins more than an average player. This is also how we assess tanks. If a tank is bad at positively influencing the game outcome it is a bad tank. I have not agreed to anything. Your definition of a tank being game breaking because it makes the game uncomfortable for you in a very specific scenario without limiting your ability to win against you is plain dumb. It makes no sense. Unless light tanks can carry late games super well they are not problematic. 

You Also mention Light changes but you are uninformed. Lights have been changed not because they were game breaking. They were changed because WG streamlined the matchmaker and wanted to remove any non standard MM tanks. The only ones that are left are prems and like 1-2 super old tanks. 

 

The only thing you are right is broken vs good. Lights are not good but what's broken about lights? The only advantage they have vs other tanks is camo. They have the same or sometimes lower view range than same tier meds and some heavies. They have shit guns with no pen, accuracy, dpg or alpha. They are only marginaly faster than same tier soft meds with a few exceptions. The only thing they have is camo and only a few light tanks actually have good camo. A sheridan has lower stationary value than an obj430U, and only 10% higher moving camo than 430U. The only broken light is the EBR 105. The rest are fine, some even require buffs. 

 

Also please don't be a child and when I accuse you of crying you say "no u are crying". What are you 5? FFs. If you want to take a jab at me at least invent your own. Your rhetoric is as bad as your arguments. 

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if  Superman  were to turn back time, you would clearly see that I was usually given positive votes. 

 

This one is funny because it's not true. You are one of the most neg repped people on this forum who are not banned, if we count active users you are the most neg repped.

. That's a clearly checkable fact. 

7 hours ago, Diriz0n said:

You cannot judge anyone

I don't want to be a dick but you're wrong again. I am judging you therefore disproving this theory. 

 

7 hours ago, Diriz0n said:

But keep the contemptuous judging to yourself. 

I won't. Though if you continue to post please stop the stream of consciousness. You are not Faulkner. Re read what you post, think about it. Then post. 

 

 

PS. I'm not angry. I enjoy telling clearly deluded people they are stupid. I'm an asshole and the one thing I hate the most in life is bad logic and rhetoric so this is very engaging for me.

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Not buying it. You are full of self defining attention seeking junk. I did this, in this tank. I did that, in that tank. In I am sure what many don't even care about. You said it, though you are certainly not a mate, I for sure don't accept any of your junk you say while defining, entitling yourself. I call you a bad player, because you say silly things like camo net and setup binocs in the open. Things that merit being called a bad player. So if you know what a mirror is, allow me to serve the same function, learn how to play, baddy. Perhaps you are short on your own medicine, and would like a dose of it. 

An average player wins 49.6% of the time NA, and does so with 1.1K WN8. So a good player by definition, is one that secures above that, and a bad one is one that finds him or herself below those numbers. When people have played thousands of games, even a high win rate can pile up thousands of losses, which when using ten minutes of fifteen minute maximum, still comprises of alot of games and time. So yes, a good player still loses many battles. Easiest when viewed in an absolute, you are making absolutely no sense at all because everyone on this forum is statistically a good. But you choose to wantonly label and define, at a whim, people as good or bad. This is the problem with you subjective social science individuals. You make your own rules. 

Light tanks were changed because people were complaining about constantly being over-tiered. And there passed a golden opportunity to tier them fairly, while also increasing the tech trees to tier ten. They were then immediately changed in the revision, as to not be too powerful with their old parameters in lower tier settings. And camo is not the only advantage. That is just stupid saying that.

My profile is open, I went through it yesterday. Go see for yourself. While doing so, omit this thread. But would I want to omit this thread? For sure not, I stand by what I have said. Again, the problem with you social science individuals, your schooling, your expertise - all of that nonsense, doesn't seem to accrue what is fact or fiction. You can't use the word fact, because you do not know what facts are. 

I think, though am not certain, another of your challenges is fragmented reading. Perhaps your lesser social sciences education, has taught you very well to skim over material, and just focus on what you believe important. I am not before pedestal, I am not out to judge you, for not only do I not know you but don't care to. This is not a house of parliament, not a courtroom, be the shit poster you want to be. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Diriz0n said:

Not buying it. You are full of self defining attention seeking junk. I did this, in this tank. I did that, in that tank. In I am sure what many don't even care about. You said it, though you are certainly not a mate, I for sure don't accept any of your junk you say while defining, entitling yourself. I call you a bad player, because you say silly things like camo net and setup binocs in the open. Things that merit being called a bad player. So if you know what a mirror is, allow me to serve the same function, learn how to play, baddy. Perhaps you are short on your own medicine, and would like a dose of it. 

An average player wins 49.6% of the time NA, and does so with 1.1K WN8. So a good player by definition, is one that secures above that, and a bad one is one that finds him or herself below those numbers. When people have played thousands of games, even a high win rate can pile up thousands of losses, which when using ten minutes of fifteen minute maximum, still comprises of alot of games and time. So yes, a good player still loses many battles. Easiest when viewed in an absolute, you are making absolutely no sense at all because everyone on this forum is statistically a good. But you choose to wantonly label and define, at a whim, people as good or bad. This is the problem with you subjective social science individuals. You make your own rules. 

Light tanks were changed because people were complaining about constantly being over-tiered. And there passed a golden opportunity to tier them fairly, while also increasing the tech trees to tier ten. They were then immediately changed in the revision, as to not be too powerful with their old parameters in lower tier settings. And camo is not the only advantage. That is just stupid saying that.

My profile is open, I went through it yesterday. Go see for yourself. While doing so, omit this thread. But would I want to omit this thread? For sure not, I stand by what I have said. Again, the problem with you social science individuals, your schooling, your expertise - all of that nonsense, doesn't seem to accrue what is fact or fiction. You can't use the word fact, because you do not know what facts are. 

I think, though am not certain, another of your challenges is fragmented reading. Perhaps your lesser social sciences education, has taught you very well to skim over material, and just focus on what you believe important. I am not before pedestal, I am not out to judge you, for not only do I not know you but don't care to. This is not a house of parliament, not a courtroom, be the shit poster you want to be. 

 

 

I wanted to write a lot more but I'll only write 2 things:

1 hour ago, Diriz0n said:

And camo is not the only advantage

1. What are the other advantages?

2. Also I'm not a social sciences guy. I am a signal transmission engineer. I just work in a different field. 

 

Also bagging on the whole social sciences makes you look like a moron. Another dweeb who hides his inferiority by trying to find faults in others. You would not have behavioral economics without psychology and sociology. You would not have neural networks without philosophy and cognitivism. You would not have accurate algorithms without anthropologists. Those are facts since those people are actually employed in said functions.

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Go back to university, study your lame ass social science, or whatever stupid humanity, and graduate without still knowing fact from fiction. And continue spreading your nonsense, as to not discern that good means better than bad or average. That is fact, whether you choose to downplay it or not. It is fact. No when said -how- good or great. Good. Which means what? Good, better than bad and average. Shit poster, extraordinaire. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Diriz0n said:

Go back to university, study your lame ass social science, or whatever stupid humanity, and graduate without still knowing fact from fiction. And continue spreading your nonsense, as to not discern that good means better than bad or average. That is fact, whether you choose to downplay it or not. It is fact. No when said -how- good or great. Good. Which means what? Good, better than bad and average. Shit poster, extraordinaire. 

 

My lame ass social science gave us behavioral economics which resulted in a Nobel from economy for Richard Thaler. They also gave us Amon Tversky and his studies on cognitivism or Daniel Dennet and his cognitivism studies. If you discard those people you are an uneducated moron but it's fun you are willing to say progressively dumber and dumber shit just because I offended you.

 

Also can you please respon to my question. What other advantages lights have over meds and other tanks?

Also again. I'm not a social scientist. I'm a signal analyst who got a job analyzing text. 

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gun handling for one, smaller size for another, excellent terrain resistances, better agility and hand brake, better repair speed coefficients 

Like seriously, an HMTV light has some of the worst LT disp stats for a tier 8 LT, and it is counted as one of the best med tank disp stats, being comparable to Pershing, progetto, T44. How do you not see that, that is like a free vert stab. 

And here comes the insults. And l get the ro, the MlNUTE l say something like that. Here we go. You just can't be civil. You NEED to insult. It is not just your posts are full of shit, you feel the need to call someone a piece of shit. The second, like the second l try that, Has fires a missile at me. or roh, l don't fucking know who. Not my fault someone trips your nerves. Learn to play. Learn to read. And data, fact, not your lame fiction. 

 

The difference is, while I may be keen to disagree, to tear into your posts, to trash your background, show disgust in what you say.....you personally get offended and reflect that at me. There is a difference between getting mad at what one says, rather than mad at him. Don't hate the player, hate the game. You mad? Go listen to some tchaikovsky, your sort are good at it, and calm down. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Diriz0n said:

gun handling for one, smaller size for another, excellent terrain resistances, better agility and hand brake, better repair speed coefficients 

Like seriously, an HMTV light has some of the worst LT disp stats for a tier 8 LT, and it is counted as one of the best med tank disp stats, being comparable to Pershing, progetto, T44. How do you not see that, that is like a free vert stab. 

And here comes the insults. And l get the ro, the MlNUTE l say something like that. Here we go. You just can't be civil. You NEED to insult. It is not just your posts are full of shit, you feel the need to call someone a piece of shit. The second, like the second l try that, Has fires a missile at me. or roh, l don't fucking know who. Not my fault someone trips your nerves. Learn to play. Learn to read. And data, fact, not your lame fiction. 

 

The difference is, while I may be keen to disagree, to tear into your posts, to trash your background, show disgust in what you say.....you personally get offended and reflect that at me. There is a difference between getting mad at what one says, rather than mad at him. Don't hate the player, hate the game. You mad? Go listen to some tchaikovsky, your sort are good at it, and calm down. 

 

1. Lights don't have better gun handling. This is confirmation bias on your part (yeah I know evil social sciences). If you for example took t10 lights and compared their gun handling to t10 meds you would see they land smack down in the middle in dispersion stats while having lower final accuracy, lower shell speed which leads to worse gun handling. If you add to that lower pen and a way bigger shell drop off you have a much worse performing gun. Then you have 300-1000 less dpm, less alpha and light guns are basically tier 8.5 medium tank guns.

2. Hand brake? How is light "hand brake" better?

3. Better repair speed means nothing when you have no armor and no hp. If you get tracked in a light you are dead. No good player (and I mean good, not 51% "good") takes repairs in their first 4 skills in a light. Hell probably first 6 skills

4. Agility - outside of T100 and EBR the speed difference is not big enough. A med will still be able to chase you and you won't be able to outrun it. 

And yeah some mid tier lights will have decent bloom but that's also because t8 meds are underpowered. HMTV is still shit. It has 400-600 less dpm than the tanks you mention. Same or 20m lower view range, not enough shells and is fairly slow for a light being capped at 63kph. Also ironically the Swedish t8 med with 360 alpha still has better bloom and shell speed than the HMTV. Though mid tier lights only serve your arguments as there are close to no fast mid tier meds.

 

 

Also I would not call you a moron if you did not say something moronic about social sciences. You disregarded a huge chunk of science and you want me to respect your intelect? LOL Mate? Also the lack of consistent logic where you bash social sciences while also claiming to have a better grasp of lingistics. Sorry but one thing that's hard to respect is someone who can't adhere to a consistent logic within one post. Again seriously I'm medically diagnosed with problems with shit like that and you're worse than me. So it says a lot. 

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21 minutes ago, Enroh said:

ok @Diriz0n and @hazzgar keep on topic without the bickering or I will close this thread. Nobody but you two are reading the walls of text being posted. Disagree all you want but keep the name calling out of it. 

He's saying stupid stuff. I'm stating facts but I need to grind credits so fine by me. 

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alot of tier ten tanks have much better gun disp values than they did in tier 8. That is why l used tier 8, because tier X (tier 9 too) are outliers. Tiers 5-8 sees light tanks have vastly better gun handling than medium and heavy tanks. They may have less accuracy on their weapons, but their disp values and aim-time are worlds ahead. 

light tank have far more responsive hand brake, or brake horsepower,  whichever you call it by. This has to do with their far higher HP/T, better track traverse. Go full speed with medium tank like M46 Patton or panther 88, and perform a split 180' brake turn. Now do the same with T49, you will see it. Light tanks have the synergy to 'slide' into place, while many mediums don't. 

No one here is 51%. But regardless, 51 is a whole lot of good compared to 49. This is what plagues people who invest in a social science education and career. They seem to not know the importance and weight of numbers. Repairs on light tanks while not important, is more important late gear when repair kits may still be on cooldown, and you get splashed by artillery and break a track. Without too many people firing at you in these instances, especially if you go dark right after. Another useful thing, is driving off smaller hill sides or bumps, and breaking a track link while not in any imminent danger. No one wants to burn a kit for that. 

While sheridan can't because it is too fat, WZ132 is speed capped  -  Panzer wagon and 13105 surely can. It depends the map of course. Agility and terrain resists don't mean speed either.  Perhaps the science behind each is difficult to explain to someone with a very social background, but I will try to make it easy for you. Play IS7. 

When did l say TV tank was good? I was using it for a comparison. And for that comparison, all I mentioned was gun disp stats, which AKA is something other than camo. Your are spewing out all this nonsensical jargon in return that wasn't even mentioned, described, or asked for. While I would not disagree with a remark such as mid-tiers are generally unremarkable, mediocre little things - I would be more keen to say that tiers lX - X are too powerful. There is a big power gap from 8-to-9 with meds and LT. But regardless, these mid-tiers (5-8) make up a large portion of the vehicles in tech trees. 

Nothing will change either of our minds, who cares. You can think and determine that I am a stupid, worthless, shit  -   just don't say it here. And likewise for me. What we are allowed to do, is assess that either of our posts are crap,  share that, and that is about it. You need to calm down, Mr Keating. 

 

Fixed your 0's. -H

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Congrats, acceleration and reaction time advantage, truly decisive strengths in the armor spam corridor fuckfest meta. Mind describing the costs in detail?

 

Handbrake turns have limited use due to how much speed they lose.

 

A light tank survives getting detracked and *not* burning a kit? Even if it is arty splash, 1/3rd to 1/4th of your HP. Arty pen means instant kill.

 

Too much stupid condensed into one paragraph to be comprehensible. 

 

> Not comparable since mid tier LT/MT is shit tier thanks to WG

> Still want to compare

> Talking about T9/T10 meds like they are the problem in 2019

 

> Indignation

 

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On 11/30/2019 at 11:13 AM, Diriz0n said:

alot of tier ten tanks have much better gun disp values than they did in tier 8. That is why l used tier 8, because tier X (tier 9 too) are outliers. Tiers 5-8 sees light tanks have vastly better gun handling than medium and heavy tanks. They may have less accuracy on their weapons, but their disp values and aim-time are worlds ahead. 

light tank have far more responsive hand brake, or brake horsepower,  whichever you call it by. This has to do with their far higher HP/T, better track traverse. Go full speed with medium tank like M46 Patton or panther 88, and perform a split 180' brake turn. Now do the same with T49, you will see it. Light tanks have the synergy to 'slide' into place, while many mediums don't. 

No one here is 51%. But regardless, 51 is a whole lot of good compared to 49. This is what plagues people who invest in a social science education and career. They seem to not know the importance and weight of numbers. Repairs on light tanks while not important, is more important late gear when repair kits may still be on cooldown, and you get splashed by artillery and break a track. Without too many people firing at you in these instances, especially if you go dark right after. Another useful thing, is driving off smaller hill sides or bumps, and breaking a track link while not in any imminent danger. No one wants to burn a kit for that. 

While sheridan can't because it is too fat, WZ132 is speed capped  -  Panzer wagon and 13105 surely can. It depends the map of course. Agility and terrain resists don't mean speed either.  Perhaps the science behind each is difficult to explain to someone with a very social background, but I will try to make it easy for you. Play IS7. 

When did l say TV tank was good? I was using it for a comparison. And for that comparison, all I mentioned was gun disp stats, which AKA is something other than camo. Your are spewing out all this nonsensical jargon in return that wasn't even mentioned, described, or asked for. While I would not disagree with a remark such as mid-tiers are generally unremarkable, mediocre little things - I would be more keen to say that tiers lX - X are too powerful. There is a big power gap from 8-to-9 with meds and LT. But regardless, these mid-tiers (5-8) make up a large portion of the vehicles in tech trees. 

Nothing will change either of our minds, who cares. You can think and determine that I am a stupid, worthless, shit  -   just don't say it here. And likewise for me. What we are allowed to do, is assess that either of our posts are crap,  share that, and that is about it. You need to calm down, Mr Keating. 

 

Fixed your 0's. -H

No. You used Tier 8 because they are the only ones that suit your needs. T8 have the worst meds t4t in the game.

 

T7 has bad and good meds with 2 very strong lights but many weak ones. t71cmdt is crap for example. 

T6 has overall shit lights and meds do everything better than them in that tier

T5 has lights that are lights in name only

T9 has lights that are seriously underpowered vs meds

T10 lights are screwed.

 

So yeah only the t9 is an outlier. If you live in opposite world. 

 

Also I can say your opinion doesn't matter because you are 51% player. Overall I'm against invalidating someones opinion because they have shit stats but you also talk like a 51% player. You do realize why other people in here are better than you (like 99.9% of the active userbase) ? Because they don't believe stupid crap you do. So yeah your opinions might help someone get from 49 to 51 but not really from 51 to 56 or 56 to 61 or 61 to 66 which are real improvements. Going from 49 to 51 is like growing your dick from 11 to 12cm. It's something but it sure as hell isn't something you can brag about

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I am going to guess you do not count tier 3, 4, 5. So if you start at 6, I would say tier 6 has good medium tanks, certainly better than light tanks. Cromwell of course.  (we won't include prems)  Skoda T-25, VK30(P), A43 using APCR on 57, P43 bis. There are those diehards who like T20 gun depression, early vert stab, view range but it is still very mediocre because of terrible DPM. Panther pen may seem useful, but hitting things for 135 gets real old, and the chassis sucks. T7 meds are underwhelming, ineffective, and dubious. T8 meds outside of prems used to be complete shitters, but now with buffs to T-44, STA1, Indien Pz, creating Pantera and Alt 5  -  they are good tanks. If you like the whole sniper shnitzel sort of thing, obj 416 is great. If Cent/l was given disp stats and engine, would be absolutely no different than RAAC, it would be a fine tank. No one seems to care though, because progetto, lorraine, TLPC, T-44-Hundo, T-54-1, Lansen are way better. I understand Cromwell is really good, no real different than Bromwell, but it is an outlier. Take away cromwell, and the rest of the meds are shit compared to Bromwell / T3485M. Tier lX-X meds are too good, too large a jump up. 

I used tier 8 because it has the most vehicles, is the most played tier. But your argument is moot, because it excludes half the tiers anyway. Tier 6-8 LT are all very bad, except prems. T71 DA for instance isn't good, yet is miles ahead of 1375, where does that leave 1375? CMCD isn't good either, but at least has view range, accuracy, and notably tier 8 LT-level DPM that none other have. 8s are terrible too, WZ132 I would say is the best of the bunch, and again it stinks, like really reeks compared to LT432. I'd say that even senlac and HK30 are better than any tech tree LT. T54LT is probably the best, but again tier 9 meds are too strong for any real comparison. 

I am not a 51% player. And I have never bragged, unlike you. Who ever said that? I am certain, 99% of this forums user base is not better than me. But we aren't here to measure dicks. Stop saying stupid shit.

 

On 12/1/2019 at 10:14 AM, Oicraftian said:

Congrats, acceleration and reaction time advantage, truly decisive strengths in the armor spam corridor fuckfest meta. 

A light tank survives getting detracked and *not* burning a kit? Even if it is arty splash, 1/3rd to 1/4th of your HP. Arty pen means instant kill.

Listen, comrade, would you read the fucking post. Do you want it in cyrillic, to help?  A light tank, in late game, without 14 people shooting at it, can take an arty splash or blind fire or whatever, go dark - and not have to burn a repair kit for fixing its tracks. A light tank, at the game start, can go off a small hill and break its tracks in the jump, and not be in danger and not have to burn a repair kit. Read the fucking post. Is repairs a definite must, like camo? No, it is not. But it certainly helps to have. 

I should not have to explain this to you, Zangief, but turn off ensk and himmels if you want half your armour meta and corridors removed. 

 

 

So many keys on your keyboard to type up walls of text, and yet you don't use your 0 key. -H

 

Edited by Haswell

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On 12/1/2019 at 5:32 PM, Diriz0n said:

A light tank, in late game, without 14 people shooting at it, can take an arty splash or blind fire or whatever, go dark - and not have to burn a repair kit for fixing its tracks. A light tank, at the game start, can go off a small hill and break its tracks in the jump, and not be in danger and not have to burn a repair kit. Read the fucking post. Is repairs a definite must, like camo? No, it is not. But it certainly helps to have. 

EDIT: Correction time

A light tank, in late game, without 14 people Anything* shooting at it, can take an arty splash (if most HP is retained) or blind fire (if it has enough HP) or whatever, go dark (in which case he would A have to move or B get tracked and drift out of LOS) - and not have to burn a repair kit for fixing its tracks Like literally every other tank without armor. A light tank, at the game start, can go off a small hill and break its tracks in the jump, and not be in danger and not have to burn a repair kit (which wasn't necessary before light tanks got hit with physics and a live demonstration of why speed wasn't a good idea in real life tanks). Read the fucking post. Is repairs a definite must, like camo? No, it is not. But it certainly helps to have. (In the extremely few cases in which the repair time benefits the tanks survival, which in most cases doesn't since the LT will get fucked hard if its spotted or not moving/Its immobilized and every red fucker saw it go dark)

 

On 11/30/2019 at 5:13 AM, Diriz0n said:

Repairs on light tanks while not important, is more important late gear when repair kits may still be on cooldown, and you get splashed by artillery and break a track. Without too many people firing at you in these instances, especially if you go dark right after. Another useful thing, is driving off smaller hill sides or bumps, and breaking a track link while not in any imminent danger. No one wants to burn a kit for that. 

 

On 11/29/2019 at 3:13 PM, Diriz0n said:

gun handling for one, smaller size for another, excellent terrain resistances, better agility and hand brake, better repair speed coefficients 

EDIT 2: Correction time

gun handling for one (Only when the mediums suck), smaller size for another (except in American potato), excellent terrain resistances (So long as WG says yes), better agility, better repair speed coefficients (so small it doesn't even matter)

Isn't the repair skill influenced by the number of crew members, so the light tanks that suffer from relatively small crews don't even get that much of an advantage with an ideal crew?

 

On 12/1/2019 at 5:32 PM, Diriz0n said:

I should not have to explain this to you, Zangief, but turn off ensk and himmels if you want half your armour meta and corridors removed. 

Half?

There are what? 40 maps in the game?

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WTF did I just waste 15 minutes of my life doing?  This made less sense than my masters thesis and it managed to do it in 2X as many words.

So, WG adds 90k new TD bushes to the game but the nerfed to hell LTs are to blame for passive play

 

mmmmkay

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