E 75 TS, Tier 8 Premium HT (Lootbox Tank)

[ZXrage 1,318]

https://tanks.gg/tank/e-75-ts/stats
TL;DR It's a German Renegade, although I hazard to assume that it's a touch better than Renegade because of more usable mobility and APCR pen

[echo9835 167]

If I get it I might try to get some ram kills

[sohojacques 271]

Briefly watched Skill playing it. He didn’t like it and much preferred the Rene. Comparing the stats I can see why: shitter gun handling and less dpm.

[Diriz0n 1,000,043]

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aren't their mobility pretty much the same? 

''more usable mobility'' ?

They have the same top speed, same reverse, same HP/T. E75 has better terrain resistances, Rene traverses quicker and has quicker turret rotation

[lavawing 498]

4 hours ago, ZXrage said:

https://tanks.gg/tank/e-75-ts/stats
TL;DR It's a German Renegade, although I hazard to assume that it's a touch better than Renegade because of more usable mobility and APCR pen

 

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Much better armour. I'd wager you could get 0.8 pretty easily with this kind of armour profile, which would be nearly double than in the Renegade.

[Diriz0n 1,000,043]

armour is better, but not by much. Has a weak LFP, and the upper is pretty exaggerated, the same as King Tiger. Less than Lowe. The real advantages in armour over renegade come not with the front armour, but with side armour and better cupola profile. Certainly not an armoured kind of tank like Defender. But the speed gives it great versatility, without renegade giant cupola flaw.

 

[ZXrage 1,318]

2 hours ago, Diriz0n said:

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aren't their mobility pretty much the same? 

''more usable mobility'' ?

They have the same top speed, same reverse, same HP/T. E75 has better terrain resistances, Rene traverses quicker and has quicker turret rotation

From what I can see, E 75 gets to its top speed more than the Renegade because of those resistances. In terms of short range mobility the M54 wins out because of good hull/turret traverse but when speeding to positions E 75 TS will get there faster because its terrain resistance modifiers arent holding back its acceleration

Also E 75 has 1 more kph reverse speed so it's not the same 

[tajj7 560]

Renegade gun is so much better, it makes the tank so good IMO that everything else you can work around. 

 

[hazzgar 730]

3 hours ago, ZXrage said:

From what I can see, E 75 gets to its top speed more than the Renegade because of those resistances. In terms of short range mobility the M54 wins out because of good hull/turret traverse but when speeding to positions E 75 TS will get there faster because its terrain resistance modifiers arent holding back its acceleration

Also E 75 has 1 more kph reverse speed so it's not the same 

The armor is imho better. The tumor is smaller and has more weird high armor spots. The turret also is not as long so it's not as easy to shoot the sides. The hull armor is also imho better. 

[lavawing 498]

2 hours ago, tajj7 said:

Renegade gun is so much better, it makes the tank so good IMO that everything else you can work around. 

 

Tbh the comparison between the Renegade and the E 75 TS goes kinda like the 5A vs IS-7. The Renegade is insanely good at laying down the damage, but the E 75 TS will probably be leagues ahead in the heavy department. 

Also the TS has 282 APCR pen for some reason.

[kolni 69,670,872]

i don't think it'll even compare to the renegade playstyle wise, you can play attrition games in this because high pen and usable armour while the renegade relies on entirely on its gun and comfort

but it's a bit hard to tell, it should perform pretty well but not caern/prog levels of good i think

the pen alone makes you able to reliably fight tier 10s as a tier 8 which is something only TDs and the Tiger II does well in the entire tier

[hazzgar 730]

22 minutes ago, kolni said:

i don't think it'll even compare to the renegade playstyle wise, you can play attrition games in this because high pen and usable armour while the renegade relies on entirely on its gun and comfort

but it's a bit hard to tell, it should perform pretty well but not caern/prog levels of good i think

the pen alone makes you able to reliably fight tier 10s as a tier 8 which is something only TDs and the Tiger II does well in the entire tier

Lowe is better than the Tiger II in that dept imho

[kolni 69,670,872]

5 minutes ago, hazzgar said:

Lowe is better than the Tiger II in that dept imho

of course, i just forgot about it.. xp pinata most of the time since they're all so bad  but that gun is definitely a sight for sore eyes while playing against tier 10s as a tier 8

[hazzgar 730]

40 minutes ago, kolni said:

of course, i just forgot about it.. xp pinata most of the time since they're all so bad  but that gun is definitely a sight for sore eyes while playing against tier 10s as a tier 8

Yeah Lowe players suck dick but the tank itself is imho quite good. Much better than Tiger II. I know it's as far from your playstyle as possible but it's one of the most reliable guns in tier and the armor on that tank is actually workable. 

[lavawing 498]

1 hour ago, kolni said:

the pen alone makes you able to reliably fight tier 10s as a tier 8 which is something only TDs and the Tiger II does well in the entire tier

IS-3

[kolni 69,670,872]

34 minutes ago, hazzgar said:

Yeah Lowe players suck dick but the tank itself is imho quite good. Much better than Tiger II. I know it's as far from your playstyle as possible but it's one of the most reliable guns in tier and the armor on that tank is actually workable. 

nah i was #1 dpg on Tiger II on EU before rerolling, 3marked it in like 60 games or something lol

Löwe is better in every way though, but this was back before the Löwe was buffed so my perception is a bit biased

 

that meta served those tanks much better though because HE spamming wasn't so intensive so high pen meant you could farm forever as long as you can tank/bounce the shots at you.. so I think this will be worse than the Renegade but much easier to play

[hazzgar 730]

5 hours ago, kolni said:

nah i was #1 dpg on Tiger II on EU before rerolling, 3marked it in like 60 games or something lol

Löwe is better in every way though, but this was back before the Löwe was buffed so my perception is a bit biased

 

that meta served those tanks much better though because HE spamming wasn't so intensive so high pen meant you could farm forever as long as you can tank/bounce the shots at you.. so I think this will be worse than the Renegade but much easier to play

I agree though there are tanks hurt worse than Germans by He Spam since they at least rely on armor thickness and not angling so they take less dmg. 

 

Also pre buff lowe was very meh. 

 

btw. Rerolling? I thought you're a sneaky xvm camo using scum like I am.

[kolni 69,670,872]

1 hour ago, hazzgar said:

I agree though there are tanks hurt worse than Germans by He Spam since they at least rely on armor thickness and not angling so they take less dmg. 

 

Also pre buff lowe was very meh. 

 

btw. Rerolling? I thought you're a sneaky xvm camo using scum like I am.

yeah but my own account, i rerolled that after 3marking all tier 10s that were in the game by then, that account is the one in the signature

now i don't even own an account, friend hoooked me up with an acc that's like blue with every tank in garage and 450mil credits that i play on when i just play for fun

[Diriz0n 1,000,043]

10 hours ago, kolni said:

the pen alone makes you able to reliably fight tier 10s as a tier 8 which is something only TDs and the Tiger II does well in the entire tier

Entire tier?  lol

T-34 Heavy, KV4, Kreslasky, Lowe, STAs, T1LPC, obj416

And really, how useful is that quality anyway, being able to exchange a penetrating shot before getting massacred. 416 and Lowe probably the only reliable ones. 

 

 

[kolni 69,670,872]

i said tanks that do it well, forgetting the löwe, not a list of tanks with high pen

the tanks you listed are obsoleted or just straight up bad in too many other areas for it to be workable, so they don't do it well

you realise that there were könisch guns in the game that completely invalidates your opinion?

[Diriz0n 1,000,043]

  15 hours ago, kolni said:

the pen alone makes you able to reliably fight tier 10s as a tier 8 which is something only TDs and the Tiger II does well in the entire tier

 

I am not arguing with you there. T-34 Heavy, KV4, Kreslasky are certainly obsolete and junk. But no more so junk than Tiger ll, which sucks for sure. Again, I agree, Lowe is alright at it, I'd also figure obj 416, T1LPC, and STA1 are especially after its buffs. The important concepts here are:  high pen to challenge tiers 9 and 1O, to which the normal range of 26O-265 is insufficient, suitable or not platform, and their reliability  (how well they can do it)  

Konisch -gun- not guns. Singular, not plural. 7.5cm L57 K lost its steam, and when it did have it, VK36 was universally better as a med, not a heavy. And if you were particularly rich, to pay gold for it, as silver wasn't a convert-able option at the time. Feeling lucky doing 75 dmg shots? Screw that, who on earth would bother, in +3/-3MM as well. I guess the taber-bore Matilda 2-pdr X is another example, but really tier 4 MM is a death trap now. 

 

[hazzgar 730]

3 hours ago, Diriz0n said:

  15 hours ago, kolni said:

the pen alone makes you able to reliably fight tier 10s as a tier 8 which is something only TDs and the Tiger II does well in the entire tier

 

I am not arguing with you there. T-34 Heavy, KV4, Kreslasky are certainly obsolete and junk. But no more so junk than Tiger ll, which sucks for sure. Again, I agree, Lowe is alright at it, I'd also figure obj 416, T1LPC, and STA1 are especially after its buffs. The important concepts here are:  high pen to challenge tiers 9 and 1O, to which the normal range of 26O-265 is insufficient, suitable or not platform, and their reliability  (how well they can do it)  

Konisch -gun- not guns. Singular, not plural. 7.5cm L57 K lost its steam, and when it did have it, VK36 was universally better as a med, not a heavy. And if you were particularly rich, to pay gold for it, as silver wasn't a convert-able option at the time. Feeling lucky doing 75 dmg shots? Screw that, who on earth would bother, in +3/-3MM as well. I guess the taber-bore Matilda 2-pdr X is another example, but really tier 4 MM is a death trap now. 

 

Tiger II is not great but the gun isn't bad. This is it's main advantage over the tanks you mentioned. Bottom tier you can fight like a bitch and be effective.

Also STA1? 243mm ACPR pen vs t10s? With 0.38 ACC? Lowe has 298mm pen with 0.32 pen, good gun depression and a strong turret.

[Kymrel 185]

STA-1 has 275 HEAT, right?

[Tupinambis 173]

Is this tank basically "What if the VK4502A couldn't turn as fast, but also wasn't stuck with garbage pen?"

[hazzgar 730]

14 minutes ago, Tupinambis said:

Is this tank basically "What if the VK4502A couldn't turn as fast, but also wasn't stuck with garbage pen?"

Better turret.