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source: https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2020/09/18/supertest-122-tm-initial-stats/?fbclid=IwAR0j70cLb6ZbAt0T0ZfQUTPfBibONXuTnRlN_-cRFYZwZSPgsHXj2kzL_1U

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This vehicle wields a 120 mm gun with 400 damage per shot. The aiming time and accuracy are quite good at 2 seconds and 0.33 m respectively. The standard shell penetration is 233 mm, while the HEAT shell can penetrate 299 mm of armor.

The combination of good armor (280 mm of frontal turret armor) and -8 degrees of gun depression allow this medium tank to take advantage of the terrain and hills. However, all these advantages come at a cost: the gun reload speed is 16 seconds. The top speed is 55 km/h, and the power-weight ratio is 15.5 h.p./t. Total HP: 1,500.

The 122 TM is nicely protected and has a good gun. Its main weakness is the reload time, which is why you should play it carefully and choose your targets wisely.

This shit is dumb 

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Fun fact: this thing was actually built and is pretty much the only historical candidate for the Chinese tier 10 med.
WZ-122 - Passed for Consideration - War Thunder - Official Forum

Fun fact II: it had a 122 mil smoothbore.

Lol.

 

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23 minutes ago, GehakteMolen said:

so a red line camper med, nice

135 UFP (230~EA) + 280 base armor on the turret + 1.5K HP + 299 pen HEAT make it more comparable to the 430U 
You can just stay around 1.5 line so people can't hit your cupolas, and the only thing that will be able to kill you is a Lowe.

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The Model in game seems to have worse armor sloping than the real one, but idk

 

 

also if we wanna get technical the WZ-132 has had a 100mm smoothbore this entire time

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34 minutes ago, Assassin7 said:

Just half the reload, give it 2k hp and make it tier 10 ffs

All new supertest tier 8s seem more like tier 9,5 with reduced HP in their first iteration.

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12 hours ago, Balthazars said:

299mm-pen HEAT on a tier 8??

T69 and chinese 122 (T-34-3, IS-2 (the t7!!), 110) used to have 300 pen on t8 ;D

And ISU had 286 AP for 8 years, till WG fucked it up...

Edit: the bs armour and gun depression is a far bigger problem, chinese tanks have big gun, and no gun depression, thats the balance factor, this thing needs 3 deg gun dep and serious armour nerf (and a dpm buff) to make it ``inline`` with the rest (T-34-3 should have more dpm, this should have more gun comfort, better pen, and shitty dpm, as balance, giving it double the armour and gun depression is just stupid...)

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11 hours ago, GehakteMolen said:

dit: the bs armour and gun depression is a far bigger problem, chinese tanks have big gun, and no gun depression, thats the balance factor, this thing needs 3 deg gun dep and serious armour nerf (and a dpm buff) to make it ``inline`` with the rest (T-34-3 should have more dpm, this should have more gun comfort, better pen, and shitty dpm, as balance, giving it double the armour and gun depression is just stupid...)

It's fun to compare this thing to the T34

 

 

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122 TM ( China, ST-8, prem). 2 iteration on the supertest.

The nerf is still small, but perhaps not the last.

Changes for 122 TM relative to the first iteration of the supertest:
• Durability: from 1,500 to 1,400
• Tank repair cost: from 14,910 to 13,916
• Dispersion on movement (max.): From 0.14 (7.70) to 0, 16 (8.80)
• Dispersion on hull traverse (max.): From 0.14 (5.84) to 0.16 (6.68)
• Spread on turret traverse (max.): From 0.10 (3 , 13) by 0.14 (4.38)

 

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On 9/22/2020 at 9:49 PM, Deus__Ex__Machina said:


122 TM ( China, ST-8, prem). 2 iteration on the supertest.

The nerf is still small, but perhaps not the last.

Changes for 122 TM relative to the first iteration of the supertest:
• Durability: from 1,500 to 1,400
• Tank repair cost: from 14,910 to 13,916
• Dispersion on movement (max.): From 0.14 (7.70) to 0, 16 (8.80)
• Dispersion on hull traverse (max.): From 0.14 (5.84) to 0.16 (6.68)
• Spread on turret traverse (max.): From 0.10 (3 , 13) by 0.14 (4.38)

 

Wow this tank is balanced now.

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If it had crappy armor, I would have said this was a typical redline sniper with low DPM. But the fact that it can actually tank shots with its turret or maybe a cheeky sidescrape turns the whole situation upside-down. Others already mentioned that this means RIP T34, but I'll also throw in there that other glass-cannon sniper/support mediums like the ravioli and STG are also RIP.

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On 9/24/2020 at 8:45 PM, Ezz said:

Inb4 they buff dpm just prior to putting it in the loot boxes.

I think it needs moar HEAT pen :disco:

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New update. Gun handling and DPM got even worse.

I can't tell if its balanced or not. Like, the DPM is INSANELY bad, and the gun handling is blegh, but the armor is really incredible for a tier 8 med and it has an otherwise great looking combo of alpha, accuracy and pen.
https://tanks.gg/v11100ct/compare/122-tm?t=obj-274a~cs-52-lis
It seems like it has a reasonably rounded list of pros and cons compared to the CS-52 and Object 274a.

Directly comparing this thing now to the T34 is just... brutally unfair.
https://tanks.gg/v11100ct/compare/122-tm?t=t34

"What if we took the T34's gun and put it on a platform thats better in basically every other way imaginable."

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On 11/13/2020 at 6:32 PM, Tupinambis said:

New update. Gun handling and DPM got even worse.

I can't tell if its balanced or not. Like, the DPM is INSANELY bad, and the gun handling is blegh, but the armor is really incredible for a tier 8 med and it has an otherwise great looking combo of alpha, accuracy and pen.
https://tanks.gg/v11100ct/compare/122-tm?t=obj-274a~cs-52-lis
It seems like it has a reasonably rounded list of pros and cons compared to the CS-52 and Object 274a.

Directly comparing this thing now to the T34 is just... brutally unfair.
https://tanks.gg/v11100ct/compare/122-tm?t=t34

"What if we took the T34's gun and put it on a platform thats better in basically every other way imaginable."

Its gonne be probably sloooow though, same shitty terrein stats as T34 and not that good hp/ton

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22 hours ago, GehakteMolen said:

Its gonne be probably sloooow though, same shitty terrein stats as T34 and not that good hp/ton

still has insane armor tho

220-240 UFP

300-350 turret face. 

just has dogshit DPM/RoF

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