The first Czech Heavy tank, the Škoda T 45

[hall0 1,095]

WG just released the stats of the teased CZ Heavy Tank

http://cdn-frm-eu.wargaming.net/wot/eu/uploads/monthly_12_2020/post-553021262-0-25431600-1607947600.jpg

To make it short. Trash.
Thought TVP is bad? Here have the same feeling it at T7.

 

[Tarski 341]

1 hour ago, hall0 said:

To make it short. Trash.

Yeah, I'm gonna plan to skip this tank if it goes into the game in this state. Looks like the devs forgot that tier 8 is where you make the tank painful to grind. 

Every 9 seconds you can miss a shot, if you manage to get into a position where you can take the shot. 

[echo9835 168]

2.9 second aim time for 220 damage. At a tier where the T29 exists. unless the soft stats and armor model are insane that thing is going to be free food for most tier 7s. That is just an up tiered skoda premium.

[Deus__Ex__Machina 989]

Where's my gimmick god dammit 

[SchnitzelTruck 3,600]

Oh yes daddy

Punish me 

[lavawing 498]

1 hour ago, Deus__Ex__Machina said:

Where's my gimmick god dammit 

The gimmick is being a free-xp sink

[Private_Miros 2,969]

14 hours ago, echo9835 said:

2.9 second aim time for 220 damage. At a tier where the T29 exists. unless the soft stats and armor model are insane that thing is going to be free food for most tier 7s. That is just an up tiered skoda premium.

Only that the Skoda premium has high alpha and DPM for tier.

[Balthazars 210]

Really, a 9 second reload for 220 alpha on a heavy tank, with what looks like basically no armour and garbage gun handling?

220 alpha at tier 7 on a heavy tank! In a world where they felt the Tiger I having 240 alpha was too low already (and the Tiger P cries forgotten in a corner).

Interesting pick for first tank in the line to release information about, because there's no way in heck anyone is excited for this thing.

[Madner Kami 405]

5 hours ago, Balthazars said:

220 alpha at tier 7 on a heavy tank! In a world where they felt the Tiger I having 240 alpha was too low already (and the Tiger P cries forgotten in a corner).

May I introduce you to the Black Prince, utilizing a gun you can find on a T6 medium?

[Tarski 341]

1 hour ago, Madner Kami said:

May I introduce you to the Black Prince, utilizing a gun you can find on a T6 medium?

At least they nerfed the turret armor in the HD update. 

[Balthazars 210]

18 hours ago, Madner Kami said:

May I introduce you to the Black Prince, utilizing a gun you can find on a T6 medium?

Yeah, but at least that thing has a bit shy of 1,900 DPM with it's rate of fire despite the sucky alpha. Don't get me wrong, the Black Prince has a bad gun, probably the single worst gun on a heavy tank in the tier, which is kind of it's 'thing' along with being slow with useless armour. But if this thing really has 220 alpha with a 9 second reload, it will have less than 1,500 DPM base. That is beyond garbage for the second lowest alpha in the tier on a heavy. For comparison, the Tiger P has about 1,800 DPM, and that too has an awful gun for the tier.

If it goes live like this, it will be the worst tier 7 heavy in the game by some margin.

[sr360 4,988]

14 hours ago, Balthazars said:

Yeah, but at least that thing has a bit shy of 1,900 DPM with it's rate of fire despite the sucky alpha. Don't get me wrong, the Black Prince has a bad gun, probably the single worst gun on a heavy tank in the tier, which is kind of it's 'thing' along with being slow with useless armour. But if this thing really has 220 alpha with a 9 second reload, it will have less than 1,500 DPM base. That is beyond garbage for the second lowest alpha in the tier on a heavy. For comparison, the Tiger P has about 1,800 DPM, and that too has an awful gun for the tier.

If it goes live like this, it will be the worst tier 7 heavy in the game by some margin.

Yeah, I struggle to find a single redeeming factor in this tank, and I actually liked the Black Prince...

[CandyVanMan 526]

Seems to be trash, but it's low tier shit, so I don't really care.

[Ezz 1,770]

Fwiw the next iteration gets a dpm and aim time buff. Still won't be a dpm monster or anything but will help.

[hall0 1,095]

So it has been buffed (HP nerfed)

Škoda T 45. Statistics with crew at 100%:

HP: 1 500   1 400

Gun: 85 mm Skoda vz.36 N

Rate of fire: 6,95   8,13 rounds/minute
Damage per minute: 1 530   1 788
Damage per minute (HE): 1 877   2 194
Reload time: 8,63 s   7,38 s

Aiming time: 2,78 s   2,40 s

[SchnitzelTruck 3,600]

That DPM buff makes it tied for lowest DPM of tech tree tier7 HTs. Didnt realise how terrible it was before

[Balthazars 210]

4 hours ago, SchnitzelTruck said:

That DPM buff makes it tied for lowest DPM of tech tree tier7 HTs. Didnt realise how terrible it was before

That was the point I was trying to make above. 1,500 base DPM on a tier 7 heavy is beyond garbage, the lowest by a huge margin as the previous lowest are all about just below 1,800 DPM. When you consider that it also only had 220 alpha for that trash DPM it makes you wonder how exactly it was supposed to do anything.

Now it shares equal lowest DPM in the tier for a heavy tank, with I think from memory, the Tiger P (with slightly more alpha) and the AMX M4 45 using the 90mm (also with slightly more alpha, but no one should be using the 90mm on that tank anyway).

Still a steaming turd.

[hall0 1,095]

It is about to get released. 

https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/ranked-battles-s3-2020/

Not as I expecetd as part of a Techtree or normal Premium, but as Ranked Reward. 12.500 for this piece of s... 
I have no idea why somebody would want to pay this much for this turd. I know you can get the price tag down to 6.000, but that is still 6k too much. 

[Bobi_Kreeg 379]

Ppl who have everything else might pick it up to finish the collection.

BM showed even trash tanks are "collectible". 

[lavawing 498]

18 hours ago, Bobi_Kreeg said:

Ppl who have everything else might pick it up to finish the collection.

BM showed even trash tanks are "collectible". 

Better yet, they're even rarer than the good tanks because good players don't play them 

[sohojacques 271]

Been watching Orzanel play it. He says it’s the second best tier 7 HT after T29; a Tiger 1 with armour...

[Jesse_the_Scout 2,098]

I'm a little confused why people are saying it's bad, at least looking at it in tanks.gg it looks solid to good. The armor is pretty good and it has no notable weaknesses. The HEAT round has low shell velocity, but heavies sniping isn't too much of a thing anyway. The cost is absurd when you can get a tier 8 for 8000 bonds, but the tank itself looks fine.