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Which way should I head first on this tech tree? I was leaning towards the lights. Thoughts?

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Bat line is a bit niche nowadays. If you're good with vision and lights I'd go the 13 line.

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And that line isn't niche? :-) 

As long as wheelie boyz exist in this form, other tier 8+ lights are obsolete. You can still have some fun tho, 13 105 line is okay. Fast, nimble tanks with camo and clip can work in many situations.

 

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On 2/27/2021 at 11:49 AM, Bobi_Kreeg said:

And that line isn't niche? :-) 

As long as wheelie boyz exist in this form, other tier 8+ lights are obsolete. You can still have some fun tho, 13 105 line is okay. Fast, nimble tanks with camo and clip can work in many situations.

 

I'd argue t100lt and manticore are better scouts on some maps since extra view range allows them to spot enemy lights in bushes before you get spoted. It's really useful in those situations where there is a long line of bushes and you know there is a light on the way. So spotting it before you are spotted can be a deal braker. Prok is one such example. Another is that open map with a square city in the middle. 

13 105 is a meh scout tho. A good damage dealer tho. 

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You can argue. But: No. There is no better LT than EBR on any map.

I too can envision hypothetical situations in which Manticore is better. But those are just that: hypothetical and situations. They happen on specific map, in specific circumstances, and only once in a blue moon.

Because a decent EBR will not play your game.

Most of the time all you can really do is sit in a bush and enjoy the show, until EBR ist tot, or your team is ded.

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2 hours ago, Bobi_Kreeg said:

You can argue. But: No. There is no better LT than EBR on any map.

I too can envision hypothetical situations in which Manticore is better. But those are just that: hypothetical and situations. They happen on specific map, in specific circumstances, and only once in a blue moon.

Because a decent EBR will not play your game.

Most of the time all you can really do is sit in a bush and enjoy the show, until EBR ist tot, or your team is ded.

Manticore is used on Prok for CW to deny/permalight the entire 1 line
So 1 Manticore and 1 EBR for 15 v 15.

Re: OP both lines you mention are off meta but I'd pick BC seeing as it isn't mega fucked by tier 10 armour and also isn't matched against EBRs

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4 hours ago, lavawing said:

Manticore is used on Prok for CW to deny/permalight the entire 1 line
So 1 Manticore and 1 EBR for 15 v 15.

Re: OP both lines you mention are off meta but I'd pick BC seeing as it isn't mega fucked by tier 10 armour and also isn't matched against EBRs

But ebr with commander vision in slot 1 can rush to a bush and sit still before manticore is in position and a bushed ebr will outspot an moving manticore (i think)

What makes ebr speed so good / annoying, is has the speed to reach annoying bush at the start, and the camo to use them

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I've got both; the Bat is probably the more capable vehicle but the 13 105 has its moments. They're quite similar, though, and either one will help you play the other. 

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