The Macro I made to make you top tank 95% of the time.

[Diatomix 103]

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Hello!
Sorry about that. I was gone for the weekend and so the subject was passed along to our Game Security Team in an email. They have determined that this program should not be used because it offers an unfair advantage to MM.
We are not taking any action again your account at this time but please immediately cease using this program and do not share it with others.
Thanks again for your understanding.

 

Was a good run. I'd rather not lose my account/tanks ive worked hard(and some paid for)

 

But i can answer any questions related to it here, since the topic will not be deleted.

[Never 7,708]

In general, what did it do? Press the Battle button, analyze the number of tanks of a certain tier in the queue and determine a chance of being top tier?

[ViktorKitov 1,444]

It simply checked the amount of tanks waiting in que and spammed the "Exit Battle" button on the waiting screen, thus giving you a better chance to be top tier.

 

Pretty lame and I would personally ban an individual that posts this on the official forum.

[Diatomix 103]

It simply checked the amount of tanks waiting in que and spammed the "Exit Battle" button on the waiting screen, thus giving you a better chance to be top tier.

 

Pretty lame and I would personally ban an individual that posts this on the official forum.

Why Would you ban an individual, reasoning?

In general, what did it do? Press the Battle button, analyze the number of tanks of a certain tier in the queue and determine a chance of being top tier?

 

Essentially yes. 

[CarbonWard 3,529]

I do that manually.

 

Question, does this mod analyze the # of tanks server side, or client side?

Because while doing it manually, i noticed that there were often delays in # of tanks in queue, which leads to some miscalculation.

[ViktorKitov 1,444]

Why Would you ban an individual, reasoning?

 

 

It's not a problem if one player does it. But guess what happens when 1000 or 5000 players use it at the same time...

[Praetor77 346]

It just stops working.... I guess.

[Diatomix 103]

I do that manually.

 

Question, does this mod analyze the # of tanks server side, or client side?

Because while doing it manually, i noticed that there were often delays in # of tanks in queue, which leads to some miscalculation.

 

Client side. Hence why it only worked 95% of the time. It is about a 3 second delay from server------> client.

 

Ill take 95% of the time over the ??? (who knows) percentage now. 

[AntonioHandsome 773]

And all you fuckers who quit queues when you're not likely to be top tanks still suck at this game, what does this say about you?

[Diatomix 103]

And all you fuckers who quit queues when you're not likely to be top tanks still suck at this game, what does this say about you?

Never said I did such things.

 

I said i wanted to revolutionize match maker 

[Rexxie 10,781]

are you the guy that set up that open bet against garbad way back in ye olden days?

[Diatomix 103]

Yeah, i was drunk and trolling.

 

My bad. 

 

Cleaned up a bit since. 

[Graf_Starhemberg 6]

Would we be happy if they change the queue window from its current state to "Vehicles in queue for available battle tiers: XXXX" or something like that?

[Diatomix 103]

Anyone with common sense can decipher that from just looking at what is given ^

[Assassin7 4,352]

It's not a problem if one player does it. But guess what happens when 1000 or 5000 players use it at the same time...

and that is why it was considered not allowed. if you had read the original thread (which you wouldn't of since your on EU) all he posted was what the program did, and that he had Messaged WG asking if it would be allowed or not. he didn't give a download link to anyone, or anything else of the sort. I would of found it ok had I been a moderator.

[Diatomix 103]

Because, it would lessen the time/pain of grinding (even stock grinding) Thus less money. 

[Lt_Gruber 164]

It would work reliably on NA only because of low population. Also while its legal and easy to do yourself,  problem arrives when too many people start using it. Basically , dont make it too easy for bots that are too dumb to figure it out.

 

Edit: WGNA are idiots if they would ban you for this.

[Fenxis 76]

Why Would you ban an individual, reasoning?

 

It's basically a (minor) denial of service attack on the server and people dropping out of the queue like that probably screws over their matchmaking. I don't see how they *wouldn't* ban someone doing this.

 

However the 'real' solution would be to add in a cool-off. You dequeue? Cool. You get to wait for 30 secs.

[Getsome 431]

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Sounds accurate.

[GloatingSwine 299]

Why Would you ban an individual, reasoning?

 

Manipulating an out-of-game factor (matchmaking) to give yourself an advantage.

 

It's basically cheating.

[CraBeatOff 5,741]

Did the program queue up tier 10s 95% of the time?! :-o

[BehroozWolf 2]

From a gameplay perspective, I'd expect that even a very low rate of adoption would cause this technique to cancel itself out, likely definable as a ratio between %adoption and %battles within the defined 'favorable' range.  

 

With a three second delay on queue numbers, favorable conditions will cause an abnormally high number of scripts to not queue-out, with all of the players who care enough to look for favorable matchmaking having a good chance of ending up together in the next round of matchmaking.

 

This would likely result in counterintuitive and bizarre outcomes, which seems like a suitable result for over-zealous optimizers.

 

Also, if WGA originally set it up in any way other than queue exit failing if a match has already been made, it was broken to begin with-- server load from queue entrance/exits should be minimal.

[FlorbFnarb 537]

Manipulating an out-of-game factor (matchmaking) to give yourself an advantage.

It's basically cheating.

Not really. WG added the Exit button. They made the population by tier visible. I'm not sure why, but they did. Using the Exit button in that fashion may be cheesy, but almost by definition it can't be against the rules to use the button.

And by extension, if something is permissible to do manually...it seems a little illogical to say a macro using that function isn't permissible.

That said, I don't understand why they made the queue population visible to begin with. Instead of banning the macro and punishing its use, why not just remove the information that makes it possible, and which has no possible legitimate use except gaming the matchmaker?

It's the same way with their approach to cussing on the forums. They could easily use a word censor to turn curse words into ****, <censored> or [redacted] with no trouble at all. So why in the world do they actually allow cussing and merely punish it?

[Praetor77 346]

Not really. WG added the Exit button. They made the population by tier visible. I'm not sure why, but they did. Using the Exit button in that fashion may be cheesy, but almost by definition it can't be against the rules to use the button.

And by extension, if something is permissible to do manually...it seems a little illogical to say a macro using that function isn't permissible.

That said, I don't understand why they made the queue population visible to begin with. Instead of banning the macro and punishing its use, why not just remove the information that makes it possible, and which has no possible legitimate use except gaming the matchmaker?

It's the same way with their approach to cussing on the forums. They could easily use a word censor to turn curse words into ****, <censored> or [redacted] with no trouble at all. So why in the world do they actually allow cussing and merely punish it?

 

This.

[Diatomix 103]

From a gameplay perspective, I'd expect that even a very low rate of adoption would cause this technique to cancel itself out, likely definable as a ratio between %adoption and %battles within the defined 'favorable' range.  

 

With a three second delay on queue numbers, favorable conditions will cause an abnormally high number of scripts to not queue-out, with all of the players who care enough to look for favorable matchmaking having a good chance of ending up together in the next round of matchmaking.

 

This would likely result in counterintuitive and bizarre outcomes, which seems like a suitable result for over-zealous optimizers.

 

Also, if WGA originally set it up in any way other than queue exit failing if a match has already been made, it was broken to begin with-- server load from queue entrance/exits should be minimal.

I factored in the 3 second delay. It only refreshes every 3 seconds at fastest anyways. In those three seconds it only has 1 sometimes 2 status updates.

 

Not really. WG added the Exit button. They made the population by tier visible. I'm not sure why, but they did. Using the Exit button in that fashion may be cheesy, but almost by definition it can't be against the rules to use the button.

And by extension, if something is permissible to do manually...it seems a little illogical to say a macro using that function isn't permissible.

That said, I don't understand why they made the queue population visible to begin with. Instead of banning the macro and punishing its use, why not just remove the information that makes it possible, and which has no possible legitimate use except gaming the matchmaker?

It's the same way with their approach to cussing on the forums. They could easily use a word censor to turn curse words into ****, <censored> or [redacted] with no trouble at all. So why in the world do they actually allow cussing and merely punish it?

Because i showed them how ludicrous it was, and how well it worked.