Feed the hamster, WG.

[FlorbFnarb 537]

Feed the goddamn hamster.

[TwistedKestrel 1]

Okay, not just me then

[Tedster59 989]

well considering Steam and Origin are down also...

[Tav 337]

They're having server troubles.

 

Considering this is coinciding with a coordinated DDOS attack on Steam and EA's login servers, I think it's a safe assumption that this is another DDOS on WoT. DerpTrolling hasn't said anything about it yet, but they could be hitting WoT, or a copycat group could be.

 

Of course that's just speculation. Could just be a coincidence.

[FlorbFnarb 537]

They're having server troubles.

 

Considering this is coinciding with a coordinated DDOS attack on Steam and EA's login servers, I think it's a safe assumption that this is another DDOS on WoT. DerpTrolling hasn't said anything about it yet, but they could be hitting WoT, or a copycat group could be.

 

Of course that's just speculation. Could just be a coincidence.

 

sigh

 

If it seriously is a DDOS attack, they need to start getting serious with prison sentences for hackers that do this shit.  As in, felony convictions with ten years behind bars, period.  No fucking "hey, you got ten years, but you're a good hacker so come work for us at the NSA/IRS/CIA/HUD to work as a counter-hacker."  Ten fucking years behind bars in federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison.  Then you get out and you're barred for the next thirty years from touching any sort of computer.

 

People that do this shit are no better than people who fucking burn down a goddamn store they get pissed at.

[Tav 337]

Comparing a temporary disruption of service to a video game to permanent destruction of property, material, loss of livelihood, etc. is a massive exaggeration. Calm down, buddy. It's just a game. Why you heff to be mad?

[methebest 114]

he does have a point though.

 

i don't even see the point in ddos attacks so maybe the risk of prison would make the hackers less retarded >.>

[TwistedKestrel 1]

Comparing a temporary disruption of service to a video game to permanent destruction of property, material, loss of livelihood, etc. is a massive exaggeration. Calm down, buddy. It's just a game. Why you heff to be mad?

 

It might be a minor inconvenience to us but to WG, EA, Valve, etc there is a real and significant cost to dealing with a DDoS attack. Not to mention I'm pretty sure there already is jail time for doing something like this, but I don't remember exactly what criminal offence it falls under in the US.

[Xantek 1]

I hear SerB spilt vodka on the servers...

[FlorbFnarb 537]

Comparing a temporary disruption of service to a video game to permanent destruction of property, material, loss of livelihood, etc. is a massive exaggeration. Calm down, buddy. It's just a game. Why you heff to be mad?

 

lol

 

It was hyperbole, yes.  I just find people that do this sort of thing reprehensible.  True, there's no risk of death, injury, or property damage - assuming that nothing is done that could physically damage the servers, that is.  But it still represents a loss of income to somebody.  Either customers of WG lose some hours of premium time, or else (more likely) WG compensates people with some free premium time.  That's as unacceptable to me as if somebody walked into a retail store they didn't like and sprayed ink on some clothes just to cost the store owners some money.

[Xantek 1]

After dat asap video tho...

[FlorbFnarb 537]

It might be a minor inconvenience to us but to WG, EA, Valve, etc there is a real and significant cost to dealing with a DDoS attack. Not to mention I'm pretty sure there already is jail time for doing something like this, but I don't remember exactly what criminal offence it falls under in the US.

 

It would be hacking, I presume.

 

In addition to despising the cost to WG, what I find galling is the presumption of whoever does this sort of thing to determine whether or not I get to play WoT.  They've effectively said "You aren't playing WoT tonight, because I said so."  If somebody tried telling me I wasn't allowed to walk down a sidewalk, or patronize a business, or get on a bus, or whatever, and tried to force me not to do it, they'd get a bloody nose.  With a DDoS attack they get to do something equivalent without any risk of reprisal.

 

So yeah, the legal consequences need to factor in the fact that there is no risk of consequences from the people they've inconvenienced.

 

Maybe instead of prison time they need to start forcing people to pay restitution.  I'm pretty sure if I walked into a Macy's and sprayed bleach all over a rack of clothes I'd end up paying for every penny of it, but I wonder if hackers end up having to pay their victims back.

[Xantek 1]

 

It would be hacking, I presume.

 

In addition to despising the cost to WG, what I find galling is the presumption of whoever does this sort of thing to determine whether or not I get to play WoT.  They've effectively said "You aren't playing WoT tonight, because I said so."  If somebody tried telling me I wasn't allowed to walk down a sidewalk, or patronize a business, or get on a bus, or whatever, and tried to force me not to do it, they'd get a bloody nose.  With a DDoS attack they get to do something equivalent without any risk of reprisal.

 

So yeah, the legal consequences need to factor in the fact that there is no risk of consequences from the people they've inconvenienced.

 

Maybe instead of prison time they need to start forcing people to pay restitution.  I'm pretty sure if I walked into a Macy's and sprayed bleach all over a rack of clothes I'd end up paying for every penny of it, but I wonder if hackers end up having to pay their victims back.

 

Maybe this "hacker" is a hero...he just saved me from a losing streak with those damn pubbies....

[OfficeMonkey 9]

Gawsh, glad I got in my times-fives already!

[FlorbFnarb 537]

Maybe this "hacker" is a hero...he just saved me from a losing streak with those damn pubbies....

 

lol

 

This is true.  I got one good match in, although I had to yell at a pair of idiots for doing nothign all match then insisting on capping before we could get the last kills done.  Second match ping spikes got me killed almost immediately.

 

Then I logged out to try and fix things, and no getting back in.

[MajorStewie 24]

here is a good video that i think you would want to watch to waste some time with

http://www.twitch.tv/phantoml0rd/c/3472609

[FlorbFnarb 537]

here is a good video that i think you would want to watch to waste some time with

http://www.twitch.tv/phantoml0rd/c/3472609

 

Holy crap, you got the TL, DR on that?  I couldn't get past him talking about how little sleep he'd had.

[TwistedKestrel 1]

Holy crap, you got the TL, DR on that?  I couldn't get past him talking about how little sleep he'd had.

6:30 10:30 in and he hasn't really said anything yet

 

Gave up at 15, he started talking about the buildup to whatever but in excruciating detail

[Haswell 2,399]

sigh

 

If it seriously is a DDOS attack, they need to start getting serious with prison sentences for hackers that do this shit.  As in, felony convictions with ten years behind bars, period.  No fucking "hey, you got ten years, but you're a good hacker so come work for us at the NSA/IRS/CIA/HUD to work as a counter-hacker."  Ten fucking years behind bars in federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison.  Then you get out and you're barred for the next thirty years from touching any sort of computer.

 

People that do this shit are no better than people who fucking burn down a goddamn store they get pissed at.

 

A DDoS attack is merely an obstruction to service, nothing is stolen or destroyed in the process. Yes, telecommunication laws and ISP's do classify DDoS as unauthorized and inappropriate use of networking infrastructure and technology, but I personally don't see the difference between a DDoS attack and a roadblock on the highway.

[MetGreDKo 455]

6:30 10:30 in and he hasn't really said anything yet

 

Gave up at 15, he started talking about the buildup to whatever but in excruciating detail

19:10 min in he starts the "shit got crashed and I got arrested."

[FlorbFnarb 537]

A DDoS attack is merely an obstruction to service, nothing is stolen or destroyed in the process. Yes, telecommunication laws and ISP's do classify DDoS as unauthorized and inappropriate use of networking infrastructure and technology, but I personally don't see the difference between a DDoS attack and a roadblock on the highway.

 

Go intentionally roadblock the interstate and see what happens to you.

 

They are illegally screwing with telecom systems and doing so in a way designed to cost people money.  You don't have to destroy something.  If somebody cut the power lines to a television station, they've done very little actual physical damage, but they've cost that television station a ton of money.

 

Costing WG thousands of dollars in free premium time is no different than breaking into their offices at night and smashing some computers of equal value.

[AlexVandross 7]

Except a DDoS is a crime, and if caught, you can face up to 5-15 years in prison, depending on the nature of the crime.

 

Also, to the rageposter....very few people get hired by the government after committing a crime. They'd have to be an exceptionally gifted hacker.. even then, it's still ultra rare.

 

However, I wish there was a phone number to call WG, in case they don't know. But, I'm sure they know by now.

[AlexVandross 7]

fail double post

[Bohomit 0]

Of course this would happen during a 5x event.

[FlorbFnarb 537]

Except a DDoS is a crime, and if caught, you can face up to 5-15 years in prison, depending on the nature of the crime.

 

Also, to the rageposter....very few people get hired by the government after committing a crime. They'd have to be an exceptionally gifted hacker.. even then, it's still ultra rare.

 

However, I wish there was a phone number to call WG, in case they don't know. But, I'm sure they know by now.

 

Oh, I don't doubt that the government is leery of hiring people with a criminal past...but then I'm also fairly sure that various agencies have also chosen to hire former hackers for their expertise as well.

 

Anyway, yeah, I would love to see people hit for this shit.  People who poke around servers and do nothing, steal no private information, and are just fooling around, I don't mind them being given a pass.  It's still illegal, but they aren't doing anything to anything.  People who do this DDoS bullshit are worthless.

 

Of course this would happen during a 5x event.

 

I doubt it's a coincidence.  They likely are pissed at WG and chose this time to annoy as many players as they could.

 

Again, doing this sort of thing in person leads to a bloody nose or fat lip.  Via the internet, they get away with it.