Recommendations/Halp for New Gaming PC

[Jojo_Joseph_Joestar 970]

So I got a new job while back and the paychecks are starting rolling in. Most of the $ I am setting apart to save for a new gaming pc. But I want it mainly to stream World of Tanks and run it at a highest graphical settings if possible. 

 

By early-mid July I will have around the target budget of 1,300-1,500$. But I currently want to get the idea of what parts I need to build the pc. I am a bit of a newbie when it comes to pc building but I have an idea of how to put a pc together. I have built the one I have currently, but following a YouTube video heh.

 

I want to buy the parts as I gather the monies, so that I don't spend it on other things, like food. Thanks!

 

 

[ViktorKitov 1,444]

MoBo - Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H

 

CPU - Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz

 

RAM - HyperX Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)

 

GPU - Gigabyte GTX 780 3GB

 

HDD - WD BLACK SERIES 1TB 7200 RPM

 

PSU- SeaSonic S12G S12G-650 650W

 

Case - Fractal Design Define R4 with Window Black

 

Subtotal: $1,270.94 (newegg)

[Folterknecht 2,257]

Z97 instead of Z87

[Crossfader 1,142]

Get an SSD (Highly recommended)

 

 

THIS... WoT doesn't use alot of RAM, so its always reading from the HHD, thus making its slow and creating mini lag spikes, SSD goes a long way to help. You can thank the russian with their 10 year old pc's for that problem.

[_Dia 2,082]

Case is up to you, make sure it's not a micro ATX unless you want that. Motherboard should just be standard ATX. An i5-4670K should run fine, i7 isn't needed for gaming but definitely get a GTX 780 if you want max settings on what I assume is going to be 2+ screens if you want to stream. 

 

Everything else is what previous people suggested. 

[Folterknecht 2,257]

Also you could go 4x 8GB RAM (1600-1866er is good enough) with your budget. That way you can just run WoT completly from a RAM disk, and you should have 0 problems with WoT and streams at the same time. Though the SSD will already bring that down, but that would give you max performance.

 

Currently 2x 8GB come in at 130$

 

To safe some $ you can just reuse your old HDD and only buy a 128-256GB SDD for the start.

 

For a single GPU system a 500W quality PSU (FSP, Seasonic, ...) is good enough - ~80$

[Getsome 431]

See Mainstream Build in

[Hurk 21]

im personally a fan of using HDD + SSD cache (the Z chipset motherboards support this) so buy a fast 128gb SSD and enjoy ~85% of the benefit without the space constraints. Last one i built. add your video card preference:

 

SilverStone PS08B Black High-strength plastic and meshed front panel MicroATX Mid Tower Computer Case

ASRock Z87M PRO4 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

Seasonic SS-660XP2 ATX 12V/EPS 12V, 660W, 80 PLUS PLATINUM Full Modular certified Active PFC Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU 

Intel Core i5-4670 Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I54670

OCZ VTX460-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Flash Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9

LG Black Blu-ray Burner SATA WH16NS40 - OEM

ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink

 

i build micro ATX systems to take up less space. but if you want more expansion room, go with a full size board instead. im really happy with ASRock boards currently and find them to be much less expensive than ASUS for the same feature sets. 

 

8gb is more than enough ram unless you plan on running multiple games or doing video/picture editing (not encoding or streaming, but editing)

 

dont forget to set the BIOS to raid mode for the SATA drives regardless of what you choose. it will save you grief later. 

[BeLiAL124 292]

MoBo - Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H

 

CPU - Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz

 

RAM - HyperX Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)

 

GPU - Gigabyte GTX 780 3GB

 

HDD - WD BLACK SERIES 1TB 7200 RPM

 

PSU- SeaSonic S12G S12G-650 650W

 

Case - Fractal Design Define R4 with Window Black

 

Subtotal: $1,270.94 (newegg)

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[Jojo_Joseph_Joestar 970]

Alrighty ty fellas.

[ViktorKitov 1,444]

Z97 instead of Z87

 

Yeah, missed that. Not too critical though.

[Getsome 431]

Yes totally get Z97 because it has a higher number?

 

Is there any other verifiable reason to spend on the fancier chipset?  It sure isn't gaming performance.

[Folterknecht 2,257]

Yes totally get Z97 because it has a higher number?

 

Is there any other verifiable reason to spend on the fancier chipset?  It sure isn't gaming performance.

 

 

"...Both of these chipsets will support current LGA1150 processors (Haswell) and future ones (Broadwell), and maintain Flex IO with up to six USB 3.0 and six SATA 6 Gbps (the same as 8-series). I mention the processor support based on the fact that Intel has not confirmed if Broadwell processors will work on the older 8-series chipsets. In fact when Intel announced the Haswell based Devil’s Canyon SKU back in March, we were told by Intel that this SKU is “supported on Intel® 9 series chipset. Intel® 8 series boards are not targeted for “Devil’s Canyon” support.”, which might mark Broadwell in the same vein."

 

"...The primary purpose of these chipsets over the 8-series is to introduce more storage options, including SATA Express and M.2. ..."

 

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[ViktorKitov 1,444]

Yeah, but frankly if he buys an i5 4670K there would be no point in upgrading to a i5 4690K.

[Folterknecht 2,257]

Yeah, but frankly if he buys an i5 4670K there would be no point in upgrading to a i5 4690K.

 

 

I was more pointing in the direction of Broadwell - just to have the option, if something interesting is coming there.

[Hurk 21]

and proper PCIe sata support is nice to have. im personally looking forward to a full speed cache drive, and the 8 series boards dont support it.

[Jojo_Joseph_Joestar 970]

Question, is there any Gaming Laptop that is worth it and reliable? 

How about this one?

 

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-GS70-Stealth-Pro-212-17-3-Inch/dp/B00JSA1MMI

 

I am thinking of getting one because in a few months I may be needing one, since ill be out of the house a lot. 

[Hurk 21]

i did gaming laptops for a while. i found the only use case was people that are truly mobile, like those that travel to random locations. since i was only traveling to pre-determined areas, i just purchased extra monitors/mice/keyboards and left them at those locations. I built a micro ATX computer that was small enough to fit in carry-on luggage. 

 

my major decision factor was performance. a top end gaming laptop can only match the desktop mainstream gaming performance. that gives it about two years of useful life for new titles. after that, technology usually changes enough that i found myself sacrificing playability. (too low of frame rates, crappy detail levels, etc)

 

if you really need a laptop though, the one you linked should be a nice overkill for current needs and last you 2-3 years without performance headaches.

just remember, gaming laptops are heavy as hell. traveling with one on flights, etc, is a major pain in the ass.

[Folterknecht 2,257]

 

 

my major decision factor was performance. a top end gaming laptop can only match the desktop mainstream gaming performance. that gives it about two years of useful life for new titles. after that, technology usually changes enough that i found myself sacrificing playability. (too low of frame rates, crappy detail levels, etc)

 

 

@Jojackington

 

You also have to keep in mind that this mobile "highend" with desktop "midrange" performance costs often more than desktop highend. While at the same time you get all kind of trouble when something isnt working or because of heat problems. Fixing a desktop is usually done in a few minutes (exchanging GPUs for example) - Laptop ... its measured in weeks.

[Hurk 21]

if you travel for business... get a overnight exchange warranty and the accidental damage warranty. either that, or get used to also travelling with a netbook to work from. 

[Jojo_Joseph_Joestar 970]

Yeah, ill just be getting a surface pro so I can solely focus my work on it.

[Necrophore 143]

and proper PCIe sata support is nice to have. im personally looking forward to a full speed cache drive, and the 8 series boards dont support it.

 

The PCIe 4x M.2 drives have really caught my interest on the new boards. I'm considering a full rebuild just so I can move off my SSD onto the new drives. I've used similar PCIe drives in the past for high-performance test systems, and I'm hoping the Z97 support will help bring prices down.

[Folterknecht 2,257]

Personally I wont buy (update my 830) until proper PCIe SSDs are around for consumers. If you dont have one yet, its ok to buy a M.2  drive or sata-express. But what Intel released thats the real deal.

[Hurk 21]

Personally I wont buy (update my 830) until proper PCIe SSDs are around for consumers. If you dont have one yet, its ok to buy a M.2  drive or sata-express. But what Intel released thats the real deal.

it all depends on your price point and what you are after i guess. im just looking for the best QD1 random I/O capability.  if thats $500 at the time i look, then its worth it. 

 

hard disks are the last place on computers where transfers are rated in MS rather than NS for the most part. and new ram wont be out until about 2016. (non-volatile DRAM replacement technologies) at that point computers will change quite a bit, but between now and then, disk is the last place for large improvements. 

 

long term, non-volatile ram will replace SSDs for many users. since large RAM caching will become a possibility.   when you have a system with ~512GB non-volatile ram, then you dont really need a high speed disk any longer. just low speed long term storage. 

[Folterknecht 2,257]

I m more of a "typical" home user, when it comes to storage needs. For those the difference between 830/840 performance and M2 is irrelevant. The next big jump is pure PCIe. Ofc on a productivity system where time is money, the story looks different.

And regarding RAM  - Intels mainstream platform will support DDR4 not until Skylake afaik, and that is sheduled for 2016. So I personally I dont see much of that nonvolatile DRAM on the the typical desktop before the end of the decade.